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Type of grease to use on timing belt tensioner pivot pin
#1

Is the type of grease to use on the timing belt tensioner pivot pin critical? I have white lithium grease at home. Is this OK, or do I need something heavier? Thanks.
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#2

I would recommend axle/wheel bearing grease. It will take the high temps better and last alot longer.
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#3

I use a very specific lube made by WURTH. It is a copper based lube that resists tempature and pressure.

I think it is SU800. I'm just so used to using it I forget the number.

I also use on the clutch fork and bearings.

Awesome stuff

Pete
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#4

I have used moly based grease in the past (like for wheel bearings and/or CVs). Is there anything wrong with that?
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#5

I thinkyou just want something high heat so it wont break down.
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#6

I used grease from my muffler bearings. I also used blinker fluid to help my timing belt get better grip.
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#7

Well, I need to get my car up and running by this weekend, and couldn't find any of the Wurth stuff Pete recommends locally, so I bought some Valvoline synthetic moly-fortified wheel bearing/CV joint grease, that's rated to 400 degrees F, so hopefully this will do the trick. There wasn't a trace of grease left on the pin when I took it out, nor did my old one have the pair of o-rings, so I figure this will be a big improvement over what I've been running with.



Speaking of the o-rings, I picked them up from my local Porsche dealer this week. They're $8.90 apiece! Holy crap! They're just rubber o-rings that probably cost a quarter to make. I feel like a military buyer who just bought a toilet seat. So the "cheap insurance" of replacing the pin and its assorted pieces isn't really so cheap - it came to a total of about $74, plus tax and shipping (I got mine from Paragon, who's in my state, so I have to pay sales tax). Oh, well, if it ends up saving my engine, I guess it's worth it.
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#8

$74 cheap no matter what car you drive.

If one were to priced equivalent parts from other makes, you may be surprised that the maintainence parts for your porsche do not cost that much more.



BTW, that grease will be just fine.
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Yes, I agree that the mainentance cost for this car, including the parts, have been quite reasonable. That's why I was so shocked at the price of a couple of measly o-rings. I guess the moral is to avoid the dealer (other than Sunset, who for whatever reason tends to be cheaper than other dealers) at all cost (sorry about the pun), and stick with places like Paragon.
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Every time I visist the OPC I'm supprised what the parts will cost. Most of them are quiet cheap in according to other companies and in relation to other marques.
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Yes, so I'm not really complaining, especially $18 in the scheme of things is insignificant. It's just the markup on this particular item that shocked me.



And to reiterate, the new pin I bought for my car, part number 944 105 170 04, does look like an upgrade over the one that came in my car. My original one did not have the grooves to accept the two o-rings, nor of course the rings themselves. If the o-rings help contain the grease between the pin and the pivot, the new design should be an improvement over the original, especially if, like me, you track the car periodically. As I said, my pin was bone dry when I took the pivot out. The belts were replaced about five years ago, so I guess I would have expected some of the grease to survive, assuming the mechanic who did the belt job last properly greased the pin. My car's a '92, so I'm not sure when Porsche changed the design, but I'm glad I went ahead and replaced mine. Oh, and the pin is only $50.40 from Paragon, not $56 like I had thought. I've temporarily misplaced the receipt for the o-rings, so I don't have the part number handy, but when (if?) I find it, I'll post it, in case it helps somebody who's preparing to do this job if they want to shop around for a better price. I was in a hurry, and Paragon didn't have the part in their system.
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