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Replacing brake pads (for beginners)
#61

Kaj, those photos look familiar.


When I did my brake job a couple months ago I was able to salvage all except two of the old vibration damper discs from the backside of the old pads. I had enough salvaged to reinstall in three of the calipers and thought it would be okay to just go without on the fourth one. Nope, it was the only one that squealed. So, up in the air with the car on four jack stands again because I wanted to rebleed the brakes as well. Just finished it up today. Fortunately its easy to pull the pads out of the caliper when there are no damper buttons to lock them in and it only took about 20 minutes mostly consumed with removing the sensors very carefully to avoid breakage.


I think I mentioned earlier that I elected to go with stock Porsche rotors and pads. I bought all new sensors (thankfully as every one of mine broke), but I forgot about the vibration dampers.


Tomorrow Ill finish cleaning up the rotors, but the wheels are going to stay off the car for awhile as Im having them refinished and having new tires mounted ($$).


   

       
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#62

one nice thing about OEM rotors is the fact that they come zinc coated and have that really nice cross-hatch pattern on them.

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#63

I pretty sure they are made by ATe,
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#64

I ordered StopTech rotors. They are rated in the top together with Brembo. I am sure the OEM Porsche rotors are fine but you pay a premium price for them.

I know all of you out there have your own opinion about brakes, however this seemed to be the best rated at the best price.

 

   

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#65

i had a good experience with those rotors.  properly bedded, you should be fine.

 

now just get new lines in there, and a complete power flush, and you should be good to go.

 

that being said, since you are 70% of the way there now already, you should repack the front wheel bearings

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#66

I know this seems to be "The Never Ending Story". However I did order new wear sensor wires as they send me a $25 gift card I could use. I do have extras but will use them on the rear when I get there. Rotors should arrive today. All the cleaning stuff is in the house and I am ready. Once i take her in for a fluid replacement I might replace the lines. Sometimes it is just not worth it saving a few bucks. (Thanks Bob for your advise) I will have a great braking system once done.

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#67

I have always found it preferable to stop using good brakes rather than the front bumper :-)
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#68

OK, we are getting closer to the brake job waiting. Now only waiting for the sensors coming in a few days. Ones done with the installation I will deal with the flush and the lines. I checked with the shop today and they would do all four lines and flush for $800.......WAY TOO MUCH!!....I will do that myself as well. Stainless steel lines for the front runs around $85.... Flush kit and fluid I bet I can keep it all under $200..... Well let's do one thing at a time.....TBC

 

   

 

   

 

PS: Does the rotors need to be washed in warm soap water...as seen on youtube?.....These do not seem to have any preservation grease on them.

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#69

I always always always wipe my down with brake cleaner, followed by alcohol on a clean cloth.
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#70

Will do, good advise.

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#71

Wait till you see what comes off of the rotors. Cutting oil, metal shavings, and just general nastiness that would get all over your pads if you didn't clean it off. Keep wiping them down until the cloth shows no more residue from the machining process.
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#72

RS Barn has a nice stainless brake line kit front/rear for $70   The fronts have the nice coiled plastic protection around the lines and the rubber grommet to fit the strut.   http://www.rsbarn.com/catalog/index.php?...cts_id=165

 

RockAuto has good pricing on the plastic pad vibration damper/shims by URO about $70 for all 16 (4 per rotor)   It will really jack the price of a brake job even if you shop at Sonnen to buy these from the dealership ($135 at Sonnen plus shipping)  Its really frustrating to not have these ready and waiting when doing the job because NOBODY locally will have them.  The pads are not as much as these things and as someone said above....dont forgoe this step and do it twice.  Im shocked he was able to preserve 12 of those things and sticky enough to re-use, I have not had much luck with that in the past.

 

Take a small wire brush....like tooth brush size and clean up the stainless pad guides (where the pads slide up and down and meet the rotor)  Much material gums up in this area.

 

On the rear calipers watch out for the washer like spacer that can fall into your catch pan and disappear.  Its thicker than your average washer and you will be unhappy if you drop/lose.

 

Good luck with your project, doing mine now as well.  Car needed rear wheel bearings and I wanted to wait till it needed brakes as well as everything has to come off.  I just bought the stainless lines at RS Barn and they seem to be a good value and have small details others dont for more money.

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#73

I was told early on that it would be a good idea to have a set of new sensors ready for the upcoming brake work. I alredy had a nice slightly used set in the house but since they gave me a $25 gift certificate for ordering the StopTech rotors I used that on a new set of sensors. You can't have too many of those little guys as they are prone to break when you pull them off...........Well the sensors showed up....I am happy ready to do the job.........hold on here... One of the little boxes they came in contained the wrong sensor...one for just one pad.......OK, here we go, pack it up and return it........ It is good it's winter here with snow on our hills this morning (WHAT??) I am in no hurry to replace brakes right now. I will wait for the last right part to arrive.

   

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#75

Ha, ain't that the truth !! Or just a rusted and seized bolt. My ( now retired ) mechanic's choice of words when dealing with these issues which invariably come up with 25 + year old cars , was ....very colorful . As was my own choice of words when my wallet was hit with the result of that so-called 20 minute job which took an entire day or longer .
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#76

Hey, that doesn't look like a 968 or even a Porsche... Looks like an English car Smile. Maybe we now allow non-Porsche cars in our discussions?? Sorry, just had to mention it...
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#77

If it was a Porsche it would change a 20 minute repair into a NLA 6 week search for a new bolt ordeal

 

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#78

tejon what about diversity? You never say didly when Dan regales us with the beauty of his Maserati. We have to let these poor tired stories of other cars in once in a while just to retain perspective on our beloved 968.

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#79

Absolutely OK for diversity and agree it gives perspective to our beloved 968s...just a diddly comment like others share sometimes when other non-Porsche cars are mentioned...Maseratis are beautiful well-designed machines, so no flaming on them. English cars maybe not so much?? Smile
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#80

... And I do have some experience with a broken bolt on an English car (head bolt that was broken off below the block surface on a Sprite - - maybe not 3 days, but still a royal PIA).
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