[hawaii7]

I am approaching my stereo replacement like the Scotsman I am. Since the head unit is dead, I will replace that first and see if I can get any sound out of the speakers. Assuming the speakers work (big assumption) did they sound any good to begin with? It's a 92 Cab - and my experience with German car stereos is that they blow.



Anyone out there have the original speakers in their 968?



Keith

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[rxter]

Yes, with a new (although very inexpensive head) put in by my PO. Speakers suck big time. So bad that I just ride with the top down all the time now and enjoy the ambience.



There are a couple, OK maybe one, <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/laugh.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> real stereo heads here who may have an opinion if you ask what is a good replacement.



Lots of other posts on the subject will get you started, but this field moves fast so there may be an updated opinion out there.



Good luck.

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[DiREW0LF]

I put 5 1/2" MB Quart Components in the front and MB Quart 4 1/2" composites with separate crossovers in the rear (they came with 4x6 mounting plates). For a head unit I am using an Blaupunkt Memphis. Being a German car I wanted to stick with parts from German companies.



Mids and highs are incredible with my setup about on par with my Paradigm\Pioneer Elite home theater system in the house. But as anyone will tell you there is a major lack of bass unless you put in a good sub setup (which you can find out more about by searching).



I have been a fan of Blaupunkt head units for a while now, they aren't filled with features like many other brands but from my experience they seem to be well built, sound great and a fair amount of power if you don't want to run external amps.



I'm no expert in car audio but I would consider myself a mild audiophile\videophile when it comes to home audio and theater.

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[PorscheDude]

IMHO, the OEM speakers suck!

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[Darryl]

[quote name='smokiemon968' post='58917' date='Sep 4 2008, 07:39 AM']IMHO, the OEM speakers suck![/quote]



They probably didn't suck as bad when they weren't 12+ years old...mine were dry rotted from hot Florida sun...but, yes, they do suck now. You can get plenty adequate sound and still use factory locations without going crazy. There's more than enough info on here to suit your taste and needs.



If you already have an aftermarket system, beware the previous hack installation!!



- Darryl

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[hawaii7]

I guess I should go whole hog and get the speakers done while he's in there. I cannot imagine sixteen year old speakers sounding too good.



Thanks,



Keith

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[flash]

i actually like the sound of the enclosed rears - i specifically chose the enclosed rears, having listened to a number of other speakers back there (not just in the showroom) - after a bit of modifying, i am very happy with them, and would not change - the factory 4x6 sucked though - other 4x6s were "ok", but this is better



i also prefer the sound of the factory tweeters (though i blew one up as soon as i added a front amp and turned it up) - only power handling requirements pushed me into changing



the front lower speakers leave a lot to be desired, but if you choose a deck that has decent EQ, you can accommodate that very easily



EQ features and amplification are the keys to good sound - not speakers - if you can't make up for the lousy locations, nothing is going to be "great" - same goes for low power, especially in a cab - choose a deck with at least a 5 band parametric, or an 11 band graphic (preferably 16), and choose a deck with at least 14 watts per channel RMS and 50 watts per channel peak, and you will find that you just might be fine with the factory speakers - that is not to say that swapping them out won't be better, but it may be good enough for you - but remember, garbage in, garbage out



the above comments of others are bang on though when it comes to low end - none of the factory stuff reproduces low end, no matter what you do - for that you need a sub - you don't have to go nuts though - for the first couple of years, i was running a self powered 200W 6.5" bazooka with satisfactory results - this was in a cab too

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[Duckman]

I'm still using and loving my 15-year-old OEM speakers, although I have a new head unit and my car is equipped with the factory hi-fi speaker option. I think they sound great.

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[Lonestar968]

I have a (very dated) replacement head unit installed by the PO and the OE speakers. Frankly, I don't listen to the stereo because it sounds like crap. Easy decision to leave it off and enjoy the sound of the engine! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[968rz]

I put a newer Pioneer head unit (deh-p5900ib) and replaced the rear speakers wiht Kenwood 6.5" (kfc-1680ie), I left the fronts as they were working fine. It sounds good (to me) the bass is no where near a sub but the head has a lot of adjustments so I can compensate a bit. BTW- it seams to get rather loud before distorting if that's your thing.

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[rxter]

Sounds like we have the same system Dan <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/ohmy.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> I need to log onto Crutchfield now...

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[firefish]

<!--quoteo(post=58968:date=Sep 4 2008, 09:23 PM:name=rxter)-->QUOTE (rxter @ Sep 4 2008, 09:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Sounds like we have the same system Dan [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif[/img] I need to log onto Crutchfield now...<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I just replaced the oldish, and very ugly, Pioneer with my, also old, trusty Blaupunkt New York. This was Blaupunkts top unit back in the day and it goes perfectly with the 968 style wise. I also replaced the OEM front speakers with a set of 4by6 from JBL. I does sound a ton better but that's more thanks to the New York than the speakers. After all, the speakers only do what the head tells them to right?

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[RPM]

I replaced the door speakers and tweeters a few years back when I upgraded the head unit to an Alpine that had iPod connectivity. The rears are the originals form the hi-fi option and still sound very good.

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[Jamie '92 968]

I'd like to replace my door speakers because the mid driver had foam surrounds which are now dry-rotted.
I couldn't find a suitable replacement other than the OE Nokia, and these are at least $51 plus shipping (just got a quote from Sunset yesterday).
I can't imagine that anyone with the 10 speaker set-up still has a good mid driver. The woffer is OK, since it has a rubber surround, and the tweeter seems OK too.

Since the OE replacement is not cheap, the power rating on the OE set-up is unknown, and because I have added an amp which is likely to damage the OE speakers even if I fix them, I'm in the market for something new and better.

The issue I have with replacements is the size of the OE tweeter. The hole is 2.5" to 3" across (I have the exact measurement somewhere). This seems to be much larger than anything else out there.

So the options seem to be:
1) find a replacement that will fit the hole
2) make a mounting fixture of some kind to cover the hole and mount the new tweeter
3) remove the innerds of the OE tweeter and somehow insert the new tweeter (there is a post somewhere on this forum that describes this approach)
4) leave the existing tweeter in place and connect it to the new speaker crossover.

My preference is option 1, but have not been able to identify a speaker that will fit.
Option 4 might work, but I have concerns about whether it will work with the new crossover due to the impedence (OE is 8 ohms, new speakers don't ever tell you what the impedence of just the tweeter is), the senstitivity SPL (this by itself could be addressed with equalization if it's close), and the power handling (I don't want to get it all set up and then blow out the tweeter and have to start over).

Any suggestions?

I've searched this forum pretty thoroughly to find a good solution, but haven't found the answer yet.

RPM, what did you put in the front of your car?

Jamie

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[Darryl]

<!--quoteo(post=71490:date=May 6 2009, 01:29 PM:name=Jamie '92 968)-->QUOTE (Jamie '92 968 @ May 6 2009, 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So the options seem to be:
1) find a replacement that will fit the hole
2) make a mounting fixture of some kind to cover the hole and mount the new tweeter
3) remove the innerds of the OE tweeter and somehow insert the new tweeter (there is a post somewhere on this forum that describes this approach)
4) leave the existing tweeter in place and connect it to the new speaker crossover.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


Jamie,

I opted for option 3 and am very pleased with the results. I ditched the mid driver in the door pocket and used 5 1/4" mid-woofer and separate tweeter with crossover (Polk MOMO) in the factory locations...I sealed up the old midrange area with a piece of ABS plastic and caulked the edges. I've got lots of pics of this install and I think a few of them are posted here. I can e-mail some if you want. I'll see if I can find my post on here about the speaker upgrade.

- Darryl

EDIT: - Here, try this... http://www.968forums.com/index.php?showtop...amp;#entry21026

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[DaveN]

I posted #3 a few months back on how I drilled out the OE tweeter and put in a new Infinity tweeter, worked out great. I posted the part numbers as well for speakers that fit the 968, search for "Infinity"

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[Jamie '92 968]

Hey Dave and Darryl,

Thanks for the reply and the great info.
It seems like option 3 is a winner. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif[/img]
I think I recall Flash mentioning that he has successfully implemented option 4.
I haven't seen any evidence that anyone has done option 1 or 2. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dry.gif[/img]
It will be interesting to see what option Ralph (RPM) used if he replies.

I have this wierd idea that every mod I have done to my car should be reversible, so I've saved all of my replaced speakers, my CD-2 stereo, kept all wires and conectors in tact, etc. As if I'm actually going to revert back to stock configuration... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif[/img]

So I guess I'll be in the market for some OE tweeters so I can carve them up (irreversible) and put mine away for the never-to-happen reversion. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

Anybody have an extra pair? They don't need to work, but would be nice if they looked good.

Jamie

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[DaveN]

<!--quoteo(post=71525:date=May 6 2009, 03:46 PM:name=Jamie '92 968)-->QUOTE (Jamie '92 968 @ May 6 2009, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Hey Dave and Darryl,

Thanks for the reply and the great info.
It seems like option 3 is a winner. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif[/img]
I think I recall Flash mentioning that he has successfully implemented option 4.
I haven't seen any evidence that anyone has done option 1 or 2. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dry.gif[/img]
It will be interesting to see what option Ralph (RPM) used if he replies.

I have this wierd idea that every mod I have done to my car should be reversible, so I've saved all of my replaced speakers, my CD-2 stereo, kept all wires and conectors in tact, etc. As if I'm actually going to revert back to stock configuration... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif[/img]

So I guess I'll be in the market for some OE tweeters so I can carve them up (irreversible) and put mine away for the never-to-happen reversion. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

Anybody have an extra pair? They don't need to work, but would be nice if they looked good.

Jamie<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I felt the same way for a while with my OE speakers. They were mint but nobody wanted them so I bit the bullet and canned them. It only hurts for a moment [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img]

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[flash]

i've seen somewhat of an option 2 - basically using the ring and mounting a new tweeter to that

i've done option 3 and 4

option 3 is fine as long as you don't put too much power through it - as soon as you connect an aftermarket amp, say "goodbye" to the tweeters - they can't handle the power - lol - that's how i got to option 4

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