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Clutch question
#1

I was loading my car on a new trailer this weekend, test fitting it. I went from a 16" triple crown, to an 18" flatbed anderson trailer.



The ramps are a shorter than the triple crown, and more of an incline, i will add some lengths of wood to aid with loading.



Ok...my question...while loading,it, i had to "ride" the clutch more than normal, and noticed the clutch burning smell afterwards. Never had that before and i have loaded it at least 15 times the last 2 years. Is it a sign of clutch wear, slipping etc.. Or just perhaps the higher incline to get it loaded? No other clutch symptoms ever. Getting ready for a DE.



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FQ
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#2

Hard to say, I have not had problems loading mine. Have original clutch with 44K on it. Something to keep an eye on for sure.
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#3

Just before I bought the car I mounted a 4000lb warn winch on my trailer...ended up pushing the car up as there was nothing to hook onto. I didn't know about the tow hook, but couldn't have gotten into the trunk anyway with dead battery....



The winch sure paid for itself a couple weeks ago when I blew the coolant line off though.
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#4

you can get into the trunk by opening the driver door, removing the vent grill in the door jam, reaching in and grabbing the cable and pulling on it. it will open the trunk.
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#5

Yes, I have read that, but when I bought the car I knew even less about it than I know now (which is not all that much). All I knew then was it was a Porsche and I wanted it - lol
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#6

[quote name='Qfrank' timestamp='1378862209' post='149089']



Is it a sign of clutch wear,



Thanks.

FQ

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Could be a sign of a weak clutch, or it could just be that you allowed it to slip too much, to the point of heating up enough to smoke the clutch mat'l. Since the circumstances were not the norm, I'd suggest trying some hard starts from a stop like you would in an autocross. If the clutch has lost a lot of it's ability to grip/hold torque, you should notice an obvious difference. In the extreme, you may find it will slip a lot under these circumstances. Smoking the clutch will likely have changed it's characteristics. Question is can you live with them for how you drive the car and what you expect out of it. If you can still do hard starts, without much slip/shudder, etc. you may be OK. Fortunately, changing the clutch on this car is very easy compared to the normal amount of work needed.
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#7

Good advice.

No smoke, just some smell. I autocross frequently, and no signe of slippage, so i hope it is an isolated incident.

I will monitor this weekend.



FQ
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#8

I got my clutch to the point of smelling pretty bad once - stuck in barely-moving traffic on a fairly steep hill. There were no residual effects from it getting heated up. You should be fine.
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#9

That is good news, thanks bombfactory. I kind of figured it was just from riding up the ramps slowly for the first time on this trailer.



It has a 5000lb winch, with a 25 ft cable and remote switch,,pretty cool. I just need a battery, and that will be my new loading method.



FQ
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Mine works with two sets of jumper cables linked together until I can get a longer set of cables made. I thought about a battery on the trailer, but then I have to keep a trickle charger on it.
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#11

Inkedupfatboy,



I will post a picture or send you one. Battery is in box at front of trailer with all wiring and the remote switch. I may do a solar charger on it, as to not run power to it in the barn. Much like we do for our electric fence, and power gate, tractor supply has good voltage solar chargers.
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#12

Yea, we use them on our aircraft tugs and forklift. I was just going to have a long set of jumper cables made - one less thing to steal if I don't have a battery on my trailer. I would like to see some photos of your set up though. Thanks!
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#13

Hi,  I am experiencing clutch shudder when letting clutch out in 1st gear - quite difficult to launch smoothly.  No slip, shudder or issues in any other gears...including 1st gear if the car is moving.  Appreciate any thoughts. Thanks.  

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#14

Dual Mass Flywheel rubber is failing...

 

Jay

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#15

Depends...if you're in bumper to bumper to bumper traffic for a long time, and/or in hot weather, it'll often do that in first gear but not in any other gears . I've experienced this symptom for 30 years ( starting with the 944s and continuing with the 968 ) and the DMF has never failed .. It does not mean that what Jay indicated is not the case, but I'm just saying it may not necessarily be that, depending on where and when you experience that shudder ..
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#16

more than likely you have deposits on your clutch disk.  this is very common.  most people spend entirely too much time on the clutch pedal.  they also frequently push the pedal too far down.  typically you only need to move the pedal 2"-3" in first gear, and 1" in others.  there is no reason to ever get near the floor, yet people do it.  many people push the pedal all the way down, and spend way too much time releasing it.  if you are pushing on the gas more than 1/2", your foot should not be on the clutch pedal.

 

unfortunately the only way to cure this is a new clutch

 

the reason you feel it in first and not other gears is the mechanical advantage.  it's a physics thing.

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#17

Had the car for about 3 months and it's getting worse...need to start saving for a new clutch. Thanks everyone for your help !!
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#18

Sorry to hear that's happening after such a short time of ownership .. at least , they're a lot less hassle to change than in the 944s.. Also, I may be wrong but I think there is a rubber plug at the bottom of the clutch housing which is not the most secure item in these cars, a large percentage of them tend to fall off and people drive completely unaware they're missing ; if you happen to live in or near rural areas , drive often over gravel, mud, or otherwise not the cleanest roads, dirt can get and accumulate in there , and those deposits might be similar to what flash is saying can also lead to premature wear .. So when you get a new one, make sure you plug the housing .
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#19

There is a way to measure the clutch wear through the inspection hole. At least you can tell if the clutch plate is gone or not. If you are too late, the rivets of the plate will damage the flywheel.


http://www.clarks-garage.com/


Do a search for "clutch wear".
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#20

Plug missing. Thanks, will make sure to have the plug installed.
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