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Clutch pedal went down and stayed there
#1

Hi all,

I pushed in my clutch to my 94 968 and it stayed down.

What could that mean, and any clues on what something like that might cost to fix.



Any help please,



Anthony
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#2

probably a blown or failed high pressure hose
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#3

you said "probably a blown or failed high pressure hose"



How can I tell if that is the problem, and what else may it be.



Thanks for your help



BTW: Does any one Know a good mechanic in CT
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#4

have somebody sit in the car and push the clutch pedal (after you manually pull it back up) while you are watching the high pressure line, which runs from the reservoir, down the side of the motor. watch particularly down where the hose meets the hard line. if it isn't blown, but is failed, it will bulge at the joint. if it's blown, fluid will squirt out.



this is exactly why i make the stainless steel teflon lined hose. it doesn't do this.
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#5

Slave cylinder.
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#6

>Slave cylinder.<



How can I tell if it is that.



Thanks again,



Anthony
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#7

When you pull it up, does it stay up, until you push it again? If the slave cylinder is bad, it should stay up if you pull it up, but the cylinder wont push it back up, cause its shot. Make sense?
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#8

because of the return spring, once you get over the ramp point, the pedal will stay put in either position whichever of the 3 components fail



you really can't tell about the slave without getting under the car with some tools (unless of course, it's wet with hydraulic fluid)



seriously, the high pressure hose is an incredibly common failure. at this point i know of well over 100 of them that have failed in the last few years.
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#9

Thanks for your help.

How can I find a good 968 mechanic in ct.
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[quote name='flash' timestamp='1338348303' post='127576']

probably a blown or failed high pressure hose

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Mine failed two years ago. I got the stainless braided hose and also replaced the slave and master cylinder at the same time...
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#11

There is a mechanic recommendation section of the forum. Hope that helps, and good luck!
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#12

I had this happen and it was the clutch plate that had failed - not the line or cylinder. The finger springs on the clutch pressure plate failed - hence no return to the flywheel.
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#13

fairly rare, but it happens. i've had it happen on a different kind of car.
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#14

I'm curious about this too. When I first picked up my car, the clutch was working ok though I felt like the pedal was too high. When it started overheating, the clutch would only return about halfway. I had to pull it the rest of the way up with my left foot. Once the cooled down, it seemed to work ok again.



I've since adjusted the springs of the pedal to factory spec, but haven't had a chance to test it since the car's been non-operational. I'll hopefully have the car running again this weekend, and thus, have a chance to test it.



If it is heat related, would that be a hose related problem or the slave cylinder?
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#15

Might as well verify your clutch pedal didn't break in two at the pivot point. It's easy to check and it would be a shame to tear into hoses and cylinders if it's something so accessible.
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#16

Hi all, thanks for your help.

It was the high pressure hose.

I brought it to Musante motor sports in south windsor CT.

The hose was $85.00, with labor it came to$429.00.

That seems a lot to me, just to replace the hose.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.



Anthony
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#17

Maybe a little, depends on what they did. The hose is kind of buried down there, so will take a little to replace it. Then there is the bleeding, that can take a while to get it right, if they did a full fluid replace and bleed as in the brakes since it's also part of the clutch system, then the hours can add up.
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#18

I hope they did the slave and the master while they were in there. Usually when the hose fails the master and slave aren't too far behind. YMMV
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#19

no they did not replace slave and master.

I did not have enough money to do that.

But they said they think it will be ok for a while.
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#20

By a rough calculation they charged you about 4 hours of labor. Having replaced this hose, even as an amateur, I think that is excessive. This is not to say they didn't spend that much time because of problems. Did they quote before they did the work?

There is no way they could predict the longevity of your slave and master cylinders without taking them apart and inspecting the seals. I am sure they did not do this. A statement that they would be ok for awhile is pure blowing smoke.
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