[Bob Kovacs]

Do the 944 and 968 both have the same stupid upside-down oil filter location that dumps oil when you remove the filter? Or was the filter relocated for the 968?



I appreciate the help!



--Bob

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[Dave]

Same PIA location. I used to form an elaborate funnel device out of aluminum foil to catch it. Now, I just stuff an old rag up there and work fast.



It's a tad harder to get out of the 968 versus my old 944 NA, but not a real issue.



Sorry to be the bearer of bad news <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/wink.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[Bob Kovacs]

[quote name='Dave' date='Aug 13 2006, 12:39 AM']Sorry to be the bearer of bad news ;)

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Believe it or not, that's actually good news. Thanks for the answer!



I just did an oil change on my 968 after letting the car sit for two weeks without running. When I pulled the filter off, there was not a single drip, as all the oil had drained out. However, not many people can let their cars sit on a lift or jack stands for a long period of time before changing the oil... I happened to be on vacation.



--Bob

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[bob blackwell]

Bob, I have the Canton Mecca spin on replacement canister filter which has the removable cap on the end which is sealed with an O ring. There is a removable canister type filter element inside. Changing oil filter is no longer a messy job. See the filter at www.cantonmecca.com Good luck, Bob Blackwell.

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[Bob Kovacs]

[quote name='bob blackwell' date='Aug 13 2006, 01:03 PM']Bob, I have the Canton Mecca spin on replacement canister filter which has the removable cap on the end which is sealed with an O ring.  There is a removable canister type filter element inside.  Changing oil filter is no longer a messy job.  See the filter at www.cantonmecca.com  Good luck, Bob Blackwell.

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Bob, thanks for the follow up. I now have the Canton filter system too, and was gathering info for an article. I owned an older 924 with the Audi engine but don't have experience with the 944 and later 924 engine. Just wanted to make sure that the oil filter was located in the same spot and dumps its oil in the same way.



--Bob

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[968rz]

Old mechanics trick,

Before you make a big mess of your engine bay,

start to drain the oil from the pan, break the filter seal so it can be hand spun off(not leaking oil yet) then poke a hole (screw driver?) in the top(bottom) and let the oil drain out of the filter for about 5/10 min. Minimal mess (if any), if you want you can duct tape the hole up b4 un-screw the filter.

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[rhudeboye]

[quote name='968rz' date='Aug 14 2006, 07:50 AM']Old mechanics trick,

Before you make a big mess of your engine bay,

start to drain the oil from the pan, break the filter seal so it can be hand spun off(not leaking oil yet) then poke a hole (screw driver?) in the top(bottom) and let the oil drain out of the filter for about 5/10 min. Minimal mess (if any), if you want you can duct tape the hole up b4 un-screw the filter.

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Good trick. But for my first oil change I wont poke a hole in the old filter. I know how things go when I start a project and chances are I'd be stuck with a filter that doesnt fit my car at the time of the change.

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[flash]

i have the canton filter, and love it - easiest filter change i've ever had - one of the best mods i've done



that being said, i have no data on volume efficiency and rates - i wanted that data, but nobody had it - i just jumped in and did it - so far, so good



bob - if you are doing an article on this, i presume you will be including such data as the flow tests, pressure and volume changes, life expectancies of the cartridge, changes in any of this with varying types of oil, etc - i would love to see this stuff, but i have not had the time or resource to get into it - otherwise, it's going to be a 4 sentence article, that has already been covered here on this board - good on ya for taking this one on



here is a link to the thread:



http://www.968forums.com/index.php?showt...&hl=canton

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[TheMirror]

Hey flash, do you know the part number for the filter cartridge offhand? I'm coming due on an oil change.



Cheers

-Mirror



[quote name='flash' date='Aug 14 2006, 08:32 AM']i have the canton filter, and love it - easiest filter change i've ever had - one of the best mods i've done



that being said, i have no data on volume efficiency and rates - i wanted that data, but nobody had it - i just jumped in and did it - so far, so good



bob - if you are doing an article on this, i presume you will be including such data as the flow tests, pressure and volume changes, life expectancies of the cartridge, changes in any of this with varying types of oil, etc - i would love to see this stuff, but i have not had the time or resource to get into it - otherwise, it's going to be a 4 sentence article, that has already been covered here on this board - good on ya for taking this one on



here is a link to the thread:



http://www.968forums.com/index.php?showt...&hl=canton

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[flash]

the number on my box of filters is 26-020

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[Tom in Austin]

If anyone would like to try the Canton filter solution, I've decided to sell mine and stick with the hole-punching routine of conventional filters. Don't drive my 968 often enough to risk the anti-drainback problem at startup.



I have a new, unused one in the shorter height (so it fits!) that is correct for our cars. $95 shipped free by ground to anywhere in the U.S.

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[Bob Kovacs]

[quote name='968rz' date='Aug 14 2006, 09:50 AM']Old mechanics trick,

Before you make a big mess of your engine bay,

start to drain the oil from the pan, break the filter seal so it can be hand spun off(not leaking oil yet) then poke a hole (screw driver?) in the top(bottom) and let the oil drain out of the filter for about 5/10 min. Minimal mess (if any), if you want you can duct tape the hole up b4 un-screw the filter.

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So many people mention this technique...



The first oil change I did on my new 1986 VW Golf, I could not remove the filter. I had the bright idea to drive a screwdriver through the filter and that didn't work, either. It did make a big mess, though. I ended up going to Sears and getting the biggest pair of Channelock pliers that I could find and it has become one of my preferred oil filter removal tools.



As for an article on the Canton Racing filter, it won't have those technical details, flash. I'm pretty sure it will make it in though, as the editor pre-approved it.



--Bob

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[flash]

then i really can't see the advantage of the article - what would be the point?



i think the editor needs to do some rethinking on what readers would find of value - what good is an article that has no data? it should also contain a performance comparison to other filters



even with data, it's not worth much more than 2 paragraphs a pic and a chart - spin old one off - spin new one on - 8 micron filtering at 15 gal/minute - no more mess - article over - what else is there to say? i'm sorry, but i'm missing the point on this one



subjective puff pieces are nice when you are talking about floor mats, but when you start talking about an item that is the single most critical piece in the lubrication system, i, like anybody else concerned about their car, would ignore an article without hard data



by all means, do the article, i think that's a great idea, but give us something of value to read - give us something that tells us about a better product, and tells us how it is better - we're all pretty tired of reading articles that come off like ads, and don't do us the simple service of comparing a product to the competition, so we can then make a decision based on facts, and not mere conjecture

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[KRAG50]

After doing my first oil and filter change and being forced to spend time cleaning the mess from around and under the filter, I thought you guys on the forum must have a better solution to this problem. A search turned up this thread and these questions. Now that some of you have had the Canton billet oil filter up-grade for a period of time, how do you like it, does or doesn't it hold the oil from draining back, and is this the same set-up that Promax offers. Thanks in advance.

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[bob blackwell]

I still like it a lot (expecially each time I change the filter element!) After I remove the filter element there is a little bit of oil remaining in the canister which I wipe out with a clean, lint-free rag. No problem with the Canton Mecca oil filter at all. good luck, Bob Blackwell.

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[ldeprat]

I bought the Canton filter 6 years ago but won't install it until they find a better check mechanism than the flimsy rubber flap that deteriorates after a few hundred miles.



The stock filter has a metal spring check valve to compensate for the upright position of 944/968 oil filter and keep oil in there to prevent dry starts, which is when engine lubrication is needed the most. YMMV.

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[flash]

well, the one i have now in mine for over 2 years has had ZERO issues - perhaps they did make a change

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[bob blackwell]

Ditto for me, no problems at all and a much more staisfactory experience with each oil filter change. Good luck, Bob Blackwell.

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