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is there such a thing as good - and cheap - brakes and pads?
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Better watch out or someone here might jump on them!



I have no idea if they are decent quality, but for the price...
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Cheap and brakes are words that should not be paired together.
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For a set of 4 Bosch brakediscs (64% off right now, ventilated, not drilled) and 4 Brembo brakepads (suited for wear contact) I would pay 580 USD right now.



You would pay 266 USD, that's less than half the price and you would have drilled rotors... Usually something that sounds too good to be true is too good to be true.



IMO, since we are talking brakes, I should not risk it altough its a fenomenal deal. Consider this: if the discs get warped after a few hundred miles, its money thrown away.
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I agree with JTP, saving money on brakes means you probably shouldn't be driving the car. Save money on cheap gas instead!
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[quote name='JTP' timestamp='1391243671' post='154780']Cheap and brakes are words that should not be paired together.[/quote]



What he said ^.

~tom
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I agree, but it sure seems hard to believe you can get something that even fits our cars for this price. At the very least, it would be worth testing to see. I mean, I would have assumed the Sumitomo ZIII tires would have been the same thing- too cheap/ not worth it- but they seem to have held up as a good value. I might be the guinea pig; find out once and for all.
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#8

All you need to hear is "Photo may vary from actual product" - it's a bait and switch. At times, there is very little that can be as important as stopping.
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Tahoe, if you decide to buy them, please share your experience. I'm sure lots of the members here are curious about it.
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Okay, so I'm heeding the wise and sage advice of the 968 Council.... I didn't buy that previous "suspect" set-up. : )



However, for less than $20 more I found this other deal on eBay. The pad/rotor combo is manufactured by Centric and its related brands and seems like a decent, inexpensive, "made in the USA" street set-up.



http://www.ebay.com/...3fc8da7&vxp=mtr



I will give you all feedback if desired, once I have them installed.



I still need to get the various dampers, sensors, bolts, fluids, etc. that is part of a complete brake service. I have spoken to Andraya at Sunset and will have that stuff on the way come Monday. I think I'll give RS Barn a call for the SS brake lines. I'm sure I'm forgetting something.



Regardless, fingers crossed - if I can get a few years of reliable service out of this purchase I'll be satisfied.



Thoughts?
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Well, I am running similar e-bay rotors and pads on our RX 300, and they are great. I can't speak to the 968 parts, but the ones I purchased a year ago improved the braking greatly.
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i swear by the porterfield r4-s on this car. i've tried others, and driven plenty of cars with every kind of pad out there. the r4-s stops at least as well as any other street pad, with less dust than almost any, no noise, and no cold stop issues.



as for rotors, there are plenty of deals out there on zimmermans.
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For just touring around your selection should be fine. Chances are they will not hold up to warpage or heavy braking like the Zimmermann rotors Flash suggests. Here are the ones on EBay compared to Zimmerman. Notice the wider vent channels on the Zimmermann. That is one of Zimmermann's selling points along with its own metallurgy. To do that costs money because of what they put into their cast iron. From their web site " Supplements in the iron alloy like e.g. copper, molybdenum, titanium and carbon are analyzed in the OE discs and are also used for the Zimmermann discs."



Also noticed your seller says machined in the USA. It's likely these rotors were cast in another country with China being the most likely. China has some of the best state of art forging and iron works in the world so that's not really a bad thing. Quality can be a hit or miss proposition though. The Zimmermann quality is consistent. The only "bad" thing is the $ to Euro exchange rate makes them cost a minimum of 36% more. If they start to pulsate, save your money and buy the Zimmermanns. A shop will say turning them on a brake lathe will straighten them out but chances are the metallurgy is off and turning will be a temporary fix.



It will be interesting how you make out with these.
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You guys are certainly correct; there's lots of great pads and rotors out there... Certainly this set-up won't compare. But needing brakes now; I'm looking at these as a stop gap until I decide what additional mods I might want to do, and since 99% of my driving is on the streets I'm assuming this set-up will be sufficient for my needs until I take that next step ( Big Reds??)
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you do not need big reds. first, doing that to the front without doing it to the rear is a huge mistake. please see the stop-tech site for some really great info on braking, brake balance, and brake setup.



i would not do a "stop gap" setup. there is no need to do that. it short-changes you now, and wastes money. i have zimmerman cross-drilled rotors with porterfield r4-s pads, and a supercharged engine, and i have no need for more brakes at all. in fact, i don't really use the ones i have. i changed the bias valve, and added stainless lines i got from paragon, and between that and the rotors and pads, i stop the car without fading at all, even on the track. sure, you'll go through them faster on the track than a track pad setup, but unless you are planning on a lot of track work, i would not go with track pads.



pop down and drive my car you'll quickly see what i am talking about.
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#16

Okay, what you are saying makes sense, I'll go with your suggestion of Zimmermans and r4-s pads. I appreciate the feedback.
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IMO, a wise decision Tahoe, 'stinginess fools the wisdom' :-)
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Are Porterfield r4-s pads still the best way to go for street with some spirited driving?  Figure as long as I'm replacing the struts and the car is on jackstand, pads and check the calipers WYIT.  Recommendations on where to buy?

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Stoptech was also recommended, anyone have an opinion between Porterfield r4-s, Pagid or Stoptech?
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My current set of brakes are BHP, which I believe is out of business. Porterfields seem to be the go to for the "spirited" crowd. OEM is of course, just fine.

 

Jay

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