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Heel and Toe shifting
#1

Hi guys,



Not sure if this is the correct place for this post...please move it if not, thanks.



I find that the brake pedal is a little high to be able to properly and easily execute a heel and toe shift. Does anyone else feel that way? What are some things I can do to improve the pedal placements? Maybe get a gas pedal add on that many of the aftermarket companies sell? I want to keep the stock look, though.



Thanks
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#2

The stock pedals are not ideal. Anything you can do to raise the gas pedal will help.



A bit of box section aluminum will work. I bought a cheap chinese $2 aluminum spirit level, cut out a section of the body the length of the pedal, painted it black and bolted that box section to the stock gas pedal with a high grip pedal pad on top. There are nicer solutions, but I've been racing my car with that pedal for four years and it works.
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#3

Interesting solution...thanks.
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#4

Heres a picture to give you the idea although probably not the look you want for a street car! As well as raising the gas pedal, you ideally want it a bit closer to the brake pedal for easy heel and toe. The slightly wider box section and the tab on the Sparco pad grip help to do that.



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#5

You used to be able to buy after market aluminium pedal kits from the likes of Paragon (Rennline). I have one in my car (which also has throttle extensions) that make heal and toe'ing much easier. You simply remove the rubber covers of the pedals and bolt up the aluminium pedals.
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#6

Thanks for the picture. It seems the gas pedal cover is mounted with two screws. Do you notice any side-to-side wobbling of the cover?
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#7

Rennline indeed. Best pedals on the market.... I have been abusing them for 4 years and still love them.





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#8

Wow, nice pedal! Is that a direct replacement for the stock 968 gas pedal? Or is drilling of the body necessary? I would rather not drill the body.
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#9

Direct. Talk to the guys at Rennline if you have any questions... they are great and their products have always been first class in my experience. No the cheapest but you pay for quality and workmanship. In my opinion well worth it when it comes to key pieces...
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#10

man that's a lot of parts, and a lot of hardware to come loose.
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#11

Mine are a straight cover for the pedals, not a complete replacement. Each pedal cover is held in place with a countersunk bolt plus a nylock nut behind the OE pedal (the OE metal pedal surface was drilled through). These have been in the car for around 6 years with no problems. Only issue is you cannot really wear boots, thongs (the kind that go on your feet, but I would not wear the American type of thong either), broad sandles, etc. you need small shoes to not grab the adjacent pedal. Great for race shoes.



These also slightly bring the pedals closer to you than the OE set-up. I find the clutch throw too long, even though I sit fairly close to the steering wheel, so getting the right leg/arm positions is an issue. My wife has short legs and she hates that if she drives the car, she has to sit so far forward to be comfortable with the pedals. I think she would be one person that would like the new GT3 with PDK, rather than a manual.



You need to drill new holes for the foot rest, but it gives y a good brace when on the track.
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#12

I have the ones in post #5. I used them in my S2 and my 968. Be aware that if you live in a climate that has moisture falling from the sky the pedals came get very slippery until your shoe bottoms dry out; it's the rubber bungs in all the holes. If I were to buy new pedals I would now chose the ones with just the perforated metal holes.
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somebody is going to have to explain to me the virtue of metal pedals. i hate the way they feel. i had a set and threw them away. maybe if they were serrated or something really rough, but i find my foot lacking the positive location and feel of the rubber.



that reminds me though that i need to order new covers for the brake and clutch pedals
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#14

Flash,



I had the same issue heal and toe'ing and found it hard to brake and get the accelerator pedal. So I went looking for what I could do about it. The metal pedals I have are really no different to the rubber ones - they are covered in little rubber balls. By not being flat and you foot/boot being on the entire surface of the pedal, it is easier to move your foot around (a bit less friction). If you wanted more friction, remove the rubber balls (they pull out) and stick some sandpaper to the pedals.



The other aspect is that the aluminium pedals simply look better, particularly when you have a black/black car with an interior like a cave.



There is a set that has a knurled type of finish on them, but try driving with bare feet with these. If I am wearing thongs (plural, and not the American version between your cheeks, the Aussie ones on your feet), I take them off and drive bare footed. A serrated version would not allow this.



Each to their own. Viva la difference!
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