[WJH]

I got my car out of the garage today. The sun shining through the windshield shows that the dash is changing color from grey to a darker grey/brown color. I'm not very happy.



Is there anything I can do to improve on this look. It really looks dirty but I know it isn't.

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[flash]

not really. unfortunately the classic grey is well known for doing this. you can try a magic eraser, but it really is limited in its ability.



keep it out of the sun as much as possible. use a windshield sunscreen. do NOT use armor all. 303 is pretty good at protecting it.

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[ds968]

yup, 303 is as good as you can find anywhere, imo however, no way to reverse the discoloration . fortunatley my dash never had that problem, but the window sills did, and I had them repainted by a professional body shop that specializes in porsches . I think the result is phenomenal. i don't remember what it cost, but i think it was under $ 200 each side, which when you consider how careful you have to be removing the door panels and putting them back so nothing rattles when you're done, at the typical $ 150/hr labor.. it quickly adds up

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[Rap]

So tell me , who did you piss off for this bad luck streak in dancing school?

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[WJH]

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So tell me , who did you piss off for this bad luck streak in dancing school?

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I don't know but I wish I could find out! I would certainly apologize.



What's crazy is I never noticed it before. Weeks ago I cleaned the dash with some Meguiar's Leather and Vinyl Cleaner. I then used Meguiar's Leather Conditioner (they said it was okay for vinyl). Today, in the sun, I notice it. I'm sure it was there all along. I must have been blinded by the Porsche Genie until today, ha.



I'll give the magic eraser a shot. Even if it doesn't work perhaps the Porsche Genie will convince me it did!

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[Rap]

Perhaps the conditioner needs to be cleaned off and another product tried. Sunglasses might help!

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[968Syncro]

Be extremely careful. I didn't have a good experience with the Magic Eraser on the browning of the classic grey. True It removes material, but doesn't care what material is removed, so you end up with a smooth shiny panel rather than a textured panel. It seems to be mechanical cleaning, not chemical cleaning. Might be fine for removing black mold from the bathroom, but not the browning on a car panel. The panel is too soft, the eraser removes panel material in addition to the browning.

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[rxter]

I painted mine. Looks pretty good. Did the A-pillars, headliner cover and rear quarter panels. Interestingly my dash and door covers have not faded. And when you look closely many of the surfaces are slightly different in color. Seats different from dash different from a-pillars different from hole plugs etc. Different dye lots perhaps? Who knows - these cars are so odd. Anyway, the whole deal cost maybe $125 and it came out good. I've been meaning to post a write up and pics, but have not been able to find the time. Promise I'll get to it ASAP.



I'm with Rolans - avoid the Magic Eraser - its basically sand paper.

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[986boxster1998]

968Snycro and rxter are absolutely correct a friend tried cleaning up the door panels of his classic grey interior and found rubbing the area hard starts to remove the grain texture. He ended up having a detail shop repray the dash, steering wheel, door panels, worn seat bolsters for $140.

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[flash]

i had much the same experience. i should have elaborated. i had to stop before i did any real damage. while it took off some of the brown, it was not going to take off all of it, and with it starting to mess with the grain, i stopped.

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[WJH]

I'm intrigued by the paint repair. I assume this is some special paint. How does it hold up over time? Do they remove the dash to spray it?

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[ds968]

No idea about the dash but I imagine if you want the job done right they would have to remove it. They removed my door panels, and used a special undercoating process before applying the paint so as to replicate as much of the original grain texture as possible. Of course it cannot ever be exactly as it was, but I think mine is as close as it gets..it does not have that painted over, smooth / shiny look to it at all.

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[Langley968]

I feel for you.

I saw a 968 last year with the same classic grey fading problem and boy (!) was I thankful that I have the marine blue interior.

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[WJH]

I did receive some pricing from Classic 9 Leather to recover the upper dash:

Leather $700, leather only $200 (If you're skilled enough!)

Vinyl $600, vinyl only $190



You have to remove it and send it to them. Those of you that have removed yours how hard was it? Is it a one beer, two beer, three beer, etc. job?



These cars are like legal crack, you can't stop!



Speaking of fading, I've got a 91 Chevy pickup with the grey interior. It's almost a direct match for the Porsche. The truck has sit outside since it was new. No cracking and no fading of the dash. I wish Porsche would have used Chevy's supplier!

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[SILVY968]

If you do not have cracks, but only discoloration, I have been very pleased with SEM sure coat. See if they have a grey that you can use.You can do the entire interior in a very short time with a rag or sponge brush application.

The stuff wears like iron. I used it to color a set of b pillars.

http://semproducts.c...ings/sure-coat/



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla..._RzdOw9BJc





Brian

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[tamathumper]

FibreNew does some pretty amazing repairs, in the car. www.fibrenew.com

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[Auburn968]

My 94 was left in a parking lot for over 2 years so the sun damage is sever. I'll post pics as soon as my camera shows up. The door panels are so brown and cracked they minic a desert river bed. Oddly my dash is cracked but not browned. Only the top edge of my glove box door. While I was cleaning the areas the amount of brown rubbing off was insane. I actually would spray and see brown streaks run down. So after a roll of shop towels it blew my mind that the brown remained.



The <acronym title='previous owner'>PO</acronym> had a good idea to wrap the areas in leather. I've had previous cars touched up by an interior repair crew. I will say unless you go in for a touch test (slightly rougher) there was no way to tell it from new. Now there are good places and places that think they are good. Do your research, stalk some used car places that focus on higher in cars. Take a look at the inventory as it arrives and find a few cars they are working on. Then go back and see what you think. Most of the times these guys are the ones you want. They stay so busy just hitting the dealers your going to have to wait to get an appt.



I'll send in pics of what you dont' want. Now im forced to recover my seat bottom to get rid of the play dough putty they used in the seam.

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[94SilverCab]

I used Leather World to repaint all of the gray interior in my car. It's been a number of years and the product has held up very well (the seats are ready for another treatment but it's been about 6 years). You can buy a product from them that reduces the sheen, also they have texture kits. Checkout the website, but I would reccomend that you call them.



http://www.leatherworldtech.com/LeatherC...me=Porsche



Jay

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[Kaj Hallstrom]

Kind of replying to an old post here. I first took notice of this color change on the TT Classic Grey when David Colman, Editor of Porsche Excellence Magazine brought it up when he was photographing my car.. He was wondering why Porsche used different color materials on the interior. On my car you have the left and right rear panel ( just behind the drivers seat/passenger seat in a fairly dark brown color. The same around the windscreen. Everything else is perfectly Classic Grey including dash. The part that fools you is that the brown is perfectly even, looks like that's the way the car came. I know this car has been garaged when not driven. You can clearly see that on the rest of the interior/exterior.

Anyone with a similar observation?

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[az968]

Classic Gray is known to change to a "Tabbaco brown" over time, even when garaged. More sun speeds up the process. Mostly up against the glass, then wider. Something in the dye used does that.

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