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#1

I currently use the Zymol line for my wax, leather cleaner etc. What are you guys using?
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#2

I'm pretty much sold on the Meguires line. That and Mothers products too.



I tried Zymol wax one time and threw my back out for two days! You have to work too hard with that stuff if you go by the instructions. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/blink.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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#3

I had great luck with Zymol on my stone grey 944 NA, but it DID take a lot of work (cleanse, wax, don't touch it). SUPER finish out of that combo.



Tried the same on my midnight blue 968 and the results were not nearly as impressive. Color is very dark and getting the Zymol to finish nicely was WAY too much work for my tastes.



This leads to my current favorite, the Meguiar's NXT Generation wax. Wow! Easy to use, comes off reasonably well, and the results look darned impressive. It doesn't have the nice pina colada smell that used to fill the garage from the Zymol, but this is my new best wax. Fast, easy, effective, durable (car is on snow tires right now).



I use Lexol (Vinylex for dash, Leather cleaner and conditioners) now, but did run through the Zymol "Vinyl" and "Leather" products in the original kit. Both worked very well. In fact, I kind like the "Vinyl" over the Vinylex product. Just too pricey, so have not replaced it.



Tried the Zymol treatment on the wife's minivan. Don't even think about this. I love her dearly, but buffing a Zymol finish on that vehicle will send you to the hospital!
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#4

I have pretty much every Mothers product they sell, and I love everything I have. I have enough to clean every peice of the car and all of them clean perfectly. The leather products make the leather look years newer, upholstery cleaner takes out any stains on the carpets, etc. I also use the aluminum wheel cleaner on the engine and it works great, I can make the engine bay look just as nice as the rest of the car.



Go to Autobarn.com - every mothers product there is around $1-4 cheaper than in stores.



The only thing I dont use of mothers is the polish, thats where Rejex steps in.
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[quote name='Porsch968e' date='Mar 16 2005, 08:03 PM']The only thing I dont use of mothers is the polish, thats where Rejex steps in.

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Oh man, you are missing one of their best products: Mothers Reflections. Their new synthetic polymer.
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#6

I am totally sold on Rejex. I've been driving around all winter (snowiest on record here) and last summer's Rejex still beads up like crazy.
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#7

I can't say that I've done a whole lot of comparing lately, but I absolutely LOVE Griot's Garage's Best Of Show Wax. I just used their paint cleaning clay, then applied the wax with their orbital polisher on my 968, and it looks spectacular! The previous owner used something that made it keep beading water for a very long time, but I finally went ahead and waxed it with Griot's as described above, and the difference is amazing. Not only does it have a deep shine, but the Griot's filled in some light surface scratches very nicely, and left the car feeling much smoother than before.
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#8

I used to get my oil changed at a Mobil Quick Lube. The manager there had a Buick GNX and a Skylark that looked as if they'd just that the first buff on a new paint job. I enquired about it and he told me they were both original paint and he'd used LiquidLustre on them since new. I've since found that my local Porsche dealership carries it as well.

And I'll second Cloud9's bit on the clay brick. I don't use Griot's, as they're available at any auto body supply joint, but the combination of the brick and Liquid Lustre is phenomenal, and both are a piece of cake to use. I can wash, brick, and wax the 968 in a little over two hours. And I'm sure it would last much longer than the three months between jobs that I give it.
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#9

Cleaning out / organizing some of the garage stuff this afternoon I found a bottle of Zaino Bros with just enough left for one coat.. Since the 968 it had its "bath" just an hour prior to that, I thought I'd get rid of the bottle and slapped the wax on it <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/cool.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



Now, should I put Rejex over it tomorrow for an added blanket of shine and protection, or will that strip off the underlying Zaino coat and the net result is simply.. one coat of Rejex ?
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#10

I had Zaino Bros on mine before I put on Rejex. I'm not sure if the Rejex stripped it off or not. I use the Zaino Bro spray on quick shine over the Rejex. I think it gives it a quick touch up and a wet look.
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#11

Best full line has to be ---Griots---

everything that I've used of theirs has been great...
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#12

i have done some comparison of a lot of different products, side by side



i have not found one line that does it all, and i have found a lot of good stuff out there - much better than the choices we used to have



for cleaning wheels, P-21s is the best - you have to be careful about leaving any on the wheel, but it is the easiest to clean with - other stuff does a good job too, but needs multiple applications to do the job - i tend to think they are all the same chemical (lye), but in different strengths



on aluminum non-painted wheels, Rejex has proven to be the best so far at protecting - that is what it was designed for though, so this is no surprise



on painted wheels, Rejex or other similar polymer compounds (Meguiare's NXT, etc) seem to have about the same effect - all work very well at keeping brake dust manageable - Rejex is a bit easier to apply though



on leather, hands down, it's Leather CPR - i'm not a big believer of "Wonder-Goo", but this stuff is amazing (thanks ron)



on vinyl and plastic, i like the finish of the Meguiare's, though it does seem to need more maintenence - 303 and STP Son-of-a GUN also do very well at both cleaning and leaving a pretective shiny finish



on plastic windows, NOVUS has stood out above the rest - they make it in different grits - i like "2"



on rubber (other than tires), i again like the Meguaire's - we call this stuff "gorilla snot" around here - it has been, by far, the best at maing that black rubber look black and without a glossy finish (more of a semi gloss) - do NOT use this on vinyl or plastic



on tires, this is highly subjective - it depends onthe finish you want - i don't like shiny, so i use the above - if youlike shiny, there are quite a few out there, but i haven't tested many of those



on paint, this is a tough one - every wax has it's own specific look and ability to cover scratches - the polymers do a really nice job of protecting, and goe on easier, but don't shine as well as waxes - which one to choose is dependent on the color of your paint too - different waxes work differently with light - you kid of have to play with this one and see what you like yourself - because i have been showing the car, i have taken to having my car detailed every 3 months, and in between i am using a compound that is not available to the general public (at least not that i am aware of), so it's no help - if i can find a source, i'll post it - it's not cheap though



in the upcoming issue of 9 Magazine, there is a DIY guide to car detailing - it gives the DOs and DON'Ts of detailing - should hit the presses monday



hope that helps
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#13

setting aside what the "best" product may be for the desired result of the application ( shine, longevity, or both ) , I have a simple question:



are two coats better than one, or will most waxes & polymers remove and replace the underlying coat in the process, thus making it unnecessary to apply anything more than once ?
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#14

that depends on the product and the application



rule 1 - read the instructions on the bottle
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[quote name='flash' date='Jul 2 2005, 12:18 PM']rule 1 - read the instructions on the bottle

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I did : " it says, shampoo, rinse, repeat.. " <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/tongue.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



Call me skeptical, but I think instructions that tell you to repeat the process, whether it's shampoo or wax, do it more so for the purpose of you using that product faster and buying more of it sooner.. that to benefit YOU ! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/unsure.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



oh, if there was only an apparatus which could objectively measure the degree of luster of one application vs. two, vs. three ... sigh.
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there is - unfortunately most of the dentists and tooth whitening companies are using them right now



seriously though, some products actually do work better with more than one coat - they generally don't last as long though



quick answer though - try it yourself on the product in question, and see if it gets better with the second coat
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#17

1. Wash with New Dawn to strip all the old wax and crap

2. this is the critical step - Clay Bar!! with soapy water as lubricant - depending on condition of the paint finish, this can be relatively quick 45 min on a 968 or long hours removing years of road and environment crud.

3. WASH again with New Dawn to remove all traces of Clay Bar, and any residual crud. - the paint should feel factory fresh smooth now. May not be shiny, but it should be smooth.

4. I like to hand apply 1 coat of Mequirs Mirror Glaze - applying sparingly - almost as if it were a really fine polishing compound. The shine should be coming through at this point

5. apply whatever top coats you want - Mother's, Griots, etc etc. Personally I now swear by Zaino Bros. products. Best I have ever used over 30 years of polishing cars. What I do is after step 4, I apply one coat of Zaino Z2 - wait 30 min and buff off. Then follow that right away with Z6 Gloss Enhnancer. The car will already look pretty decent - shiny, but not yet show car.

6. After 24 hours, apply another coat of Z2 - a lighter coat that the first coat. Another Z6 buff - spray a mist onto the buffing cloth and not the car though. The look is going to be pretty shiny at this point

7. repeat 1 or 2 more times - the paint finish should now start to develpo a real "depth"



I did that on my 951S (Zermatt Silver) and ended up winnning a PCA Concours last year! The depth of shine on a silver car was great, but nothing compared to a dark shade.



Just put the 3rd coat on the midnight blue 968 Cab and the car looks almost liquid... the depth of shine is amazing, and the Zaino seems to last quite a long time - several months.



Oh, I use other stuff like Lexol for the interior, various tire and wheel cleaners etc.



I try to keep the cars covered and not in the sunlight, outside etc. and just normal washing between the big wax detailing. Use a good car wash soap - not New Dawn for normal washes though - otherwise you will strip off all the wax / polymer coatings.



Have fun
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[quote name='ds968' date='Jul 2 2005, 02:57 PM']setting aside what the "best" product may be for the desired result of the application ( shine,  longevity, or both ) , I have a simple question:



are two coats better than one,  or will most waxes & polymers remove and replace the underlying coat in the process,  thus making it unnecessary to apply anything more than once ?

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One reason to make two passes even if the product you use does not layer is to ensure full coverage.
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good point. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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#20

i have a question, slightly off topic, but close...



i have some tape goo on my tires from just having masked/repainted them. i've tried some cleaners that were too weak (armor all, car wash soap) and some that were too strong (goof off, goo b gone).



is there a cleaner out there that would remove the tape goo w/o damaging the rubber?
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