[rhudeboye]

[quote name='Renalicious' post='35184' date='May 7 2007, 07:52 PM']I would still really like to hear all these different exhausts <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/sad.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />[/quote]



Man, ditto here.



So who in the DC area has a BB or RSB? Cosimo, Darryl, husky, Kathy, Jay anyone?

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[flash]

lol - you guys had a great opportunity at the celebration - there will probably be another one at the Anapolis event

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[Mark]

I have two of the RSB exhausts in the DC area

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[rhudeboye]

[quote name='Mark' post='35205' date='May 8 2007, 10:03 AM']I have two of the RSB exhausts in the DC area[/quote]



Will you be out for the Annapolis get together?

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[flash]

and i think cosimo has a b&b, and am pretty sure he's going, so there you have it

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[PorscheDude]

[quote name='rhudeboye' post='35207' date='May 8 2007, 01:10 PM']Will you be out for the Annapolis get together?[/quote]







I should be there with a B&B

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[94SilverCab]

I will be there with my "Customized" RS Barn exhaust... <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/cool.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[Darryl]

No help here...I'm all stock. Then again that may be of some help so you have an orginal to compare it to! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/tongue.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



I will be in Annapolis...see everyone there.



- Darryl

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[flash]

actually, daryl, grab a shotgun and a stand and plug into protools - i have not had the opportunity to re-record everything - the device i used before did not have the headroom necessary



this would give the opportunity of at least comparison of the 4 systems we already know would be there (stock, b&b, rs barn, mod rs barn)



i'll do it for sure the next time we have a gathering

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[Darryl]

I should be able to pull that off...I don't have protools but know plenty of people who do from my radio days. Let me check around and see if I can borrow someone's laptop and get some sound. Will probably end up being a SM58 on a boom stand or something similar. I'll defer to you as to mic placement... I'll make a couple of calls..."sounds" like fun.



- Darryl

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[flash]

the 58 won't work - not enough side rejection - also, you'd have to get the 58 way too close to get the low end, and you would get all the flutter of the air movement



definitely need a hyper cardoid and preferably a shotgun - let me know if it becomes an issue - i have one with its own battery phantom supply that i might be able to ship to you for the recording (just have to check my schedule)



boom stand is perfect

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[rhudeboye]

[quote name='flash' post='35227' date='May 8 2007, 06:09 PM']definitely need a shotgun

boom stand is perfect[/quote]



<img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/laugh.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



Man, things come together fast here.



Looking fwd to hearing the results and assisting in anyway possible.



David

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[Darryl]

[quote name='flash' post='35227' date='May 8 2007, 09:09 PM']the 58 won't work - not enough side rejection - also, you'd have to get the 58 way too close to get the low end, and you would get all the flutter of the air movement



definitely need a hyper cardoid and preferably a shotgun - let me know if it becomes an issue - i have one with its own battery phantom supply that i might be able to ship to you for the recording (just have to check my schedule)



boom stand is perfect[/quote]



That makes sense...OK, let me see what mics I can get a hold of...make a few calls today.



- Darryl

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[Renalicious]

Can we get a side order of video with that audio? <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/wink.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[ds968]

[quote name='Renalicious' post='35251' date='May 9 2007, 03:48 PM']Can we get a side order of video with that audio? <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/wink.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />[/quote]



Why, of course you can <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/rolleyes.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> Ok, not the comparison results but until those are posted, here's an A.V. clip ( from one of my old posts ) of my car with the BB catback, NO resonator, and at full throttle in 3rd gear



It's important to know this was captured / recorded on a cell phone camera so the sound quality leaves a lot to be desired. In "real life" it's a much deeper tone that reproduced by this phone recording, but you'll get some idea nonetheless..



http://members.rennlist.com/porscheg96/dan968left.3gp

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[flash]

the thing to remember about any of these recordings is that the sound will only be as good as the system you play it on - run it through your computer speakers, and it will sound thin and buzzy - run it through my main system with 4 12" woofers and a couple thousands watts of power and it rattles the windows



when i did the other recordings i should have gotten the mic a bit closer and used a better recording medium than the little digital gadget i had - i didn't accurately capture the low end - that is going to be a problem to be overcome in the next set of recordings - as i am working on a new exhaust system now, i plan to make recordings and play them back on my studio monitors and establish a set of "control" parameters to this can be repeated accurately



as dan points out, real life driving is different than sitting in a garage too - the engine sounds different under load than just revving up - passes like he did are a good thing to record - i plan to do both

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[Harvey]

I've not heard the two mufflers side by side but the B&B muffler is like sex to me, if it could get any better I couldn't stand it!! What a great sound! And it's beautifully polished, smooth welds, etc. I think it's hard to make a great engine sound not terribly good, except I couldn't stand the stock 968 exhaust. Was too quiet and the car sounded more like a sewing machine than a sports car. Smooth but no roar. I suspect that either exhaust system is going make the listener happy.



Harvey

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[Mark]

[quote name='Harvey' post='35266' date='May 9 2007, 10:54 PM']I've not heard the two mufflers side by side ............I couldn't stand the stock 968 exhaust. Was too quiet and the car sounded more like a sewing machine than a sports car. Smooth but no roar. I suspect that either exhaust system is going make the listener happy.



Harvey[/quote]



Well said, even my wife thought the 968 exhaust was wimpy and much prefers the sound with the RSB.

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[flash]

quite a few of us have heard them side by side - it's pretty easy to tell them apart - i've driven them both, and can tell differences from that too - there are some who have actually had both systems



while the b&b is certainly better than stock, it has a bit more of a "raaaat" to it, and a bit more of a flutter, (even with the optional resonator, though it does help) than the rs barn - the b&b might be a bit more free flowing, which, on a modified engine or race car, potentially could help at the very top, but at the expense of some torque loss down low



the upside of the b&b is that the muffler does not hang down quite as far, so from the rear, if you get down real low and this kind of thing bugs you, it looks a bit better from the rear - the upside of the rsb is the slip-fit design, eliminating the known weld issues of the b&b



however, even if i was willing to live with the torque loss, that noise bugs me enough to do something different - i've changed my system 6 times now in an effort to get just the right tone AND not lose power or have a power ceiling (that was the latest problem)



the work continues, and i think i'm close to what i want, but much of this is subjective - sound is a very personal thing - some like the higher pitched sound (ferrari), some the low burble (boss 302)



i should get a chance to record everything very soon - after all, it is time for the next paso robles run

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[kramermic]

I originally removed the cat and resonator but had the stock muffler. Sounded pretty ricey so I managed to find a guy that bought a 968 with a B&B muffler on it / no resonator. He was switching back to a stock sounding system (not sure what, I offered my stock muffler) and wanted to get rid of his B&B. He had it removed and I paid for shipping (about $50). I welded in a glass pack and the B&B. Sounds great....at the right price. I tend to get a lot of complements even from carrera guys. I belive this system is significantly louder than the B&B system itself...

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