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ODOMETER/TRIPMETER ISSUES
#61

[quote name='Anchorman' post='41706' date='Sep 25 2007, 05:43 PM']That would be the first thing I look at. When I replaced the dash, one of the two locking levers on the multipin connector on the left side (the temperature gauge side) broke. I'll probably have to figure out some way of holding the male/female parts together better than just friction - hopefully I can get some tape or something in there.[/quote]



You can buy these connectors for about $20 and can remove the locking lever and insert it into your broken clip. It is delicate but can be done with patience and a lubricant.



Tom
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#62

OK, thanks, I'd certainly like to give that a try. Where can the connectors be purchased?
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#63

[quote name='Anchorman' post='41780' date='Sep 27 2007, 02:44 PM']OK, thanks, I'd certainly like to give that a try. Where can the connectors be purchased?[/quote]



I'm sorry, Jim, I should have said that it is an OEM part. The part number is 944 612 311 00. It's on page 902-66 of the "Katalog."



By the way, it's been a year or more since I did this, but I think I removed the broken clip by drilling out the old hinge pin with a small drill bit and a pin vise. The new one snapped in with some silicone lubricant.



Tom
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#64

Thanks. I'll pick one up and see if I can do it as well as you apparently did.
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#65

[quote name='tloof' post='41775' date='Sep 27 2007, 11:55 AM']Hey Joel,



My 968 is also a '94 model, so do all '94 & up models use the 16 tooth pod vs the 12 tooth one that Jeff says is required for a 968?[/quote]





Tloof,



I'm sorry I really don't know if all the 94s were the same. My guess would be yes, and that it was a model year type switch. My car is a fairly early 94, but does have the 993 seats if that makes any difference.



I'd order the 16-tooth if I were you, or give Jeff a call first at (757) 593-3478.



HTH,

Joel
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#66

I took my instrument cluster apart on my '94 968, and it had the 16 tooth pod as well and a small 15 tooth gear that mounts onto it that one tooth was broken off of so that's all I ordered from Jeff. The new gear showed up in 2 days...talk about fast service!!
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#67

[quote name='pickwick' post='25629' date='Aug 27 2006, 04:24 PM']Today I fixed my odo with Brett's gear. My photos look much like sp4149's above so I won't post any. Eight screws for the oval bezel, four screws and three connectors for the panel, eight screws to remove the cluster from the black/clear cover, four to remove the speedometer unit, and two to remove the little motor to get to the broken gear.



I wasn't able to remove the panel w/o removing the steering wheel; I was having to pull too hard and didn't want to break anything else. So add two Torx screws and a connector to remove the airbag, a 24mm nut to remove the wheel, and four screws to remove the rectangular cover behind the wheel.



Was easier than I expected. And whoever said their voltmeter now reads higher: mine does too, by a good half volt.[/quote]



Well, I suppose it was inevitable, but my odometer recently stopped working, too. Fortunately, thanks to all the great info in this thread, I was able to diagnose the problem, to my relief, as (apparently) being due to just the classic broken geat problem. I've attached a picture of the gear; sorry if it's a little fuzzy, but you can see the amber 15-tooth geat with the missing tooth adjacent to the hole for the motor's driveshaft. You can actually see the missing tooth against the outer gear in the background.



A few comments/questions: First, a guy by the name of Brett was selling these gears for $10 a couple of years ago. I have tried emailing and PM'ing him, but have gotten no response. His profile shows him to have last been active on 10/1/07. Does anybody out there know Brett, and if so, know of any other way to contact him, like with a phone number? If so, please email or PM me with the info. This puny gear costs $25 from other sources, and I'll pay that if I have to, but it looks like this thing costs all of $2 to make, so if I can get it for $10, I'd obviously prefer that. Yes, I know, I'm a mega-cheapskate... Or if somebody knows of any other sources for this gear, please let me know.



Also, I've heard people advise replacing two gears. What's the second one? The outer clear one that the amber gear drives, or the black one on the motor drive shaft that drives the amber gear? Odometergears.com (if I'm remembering that right) sells the second gear, but it runs 50 bucks, which is a lot of money for a little piece of plastic.



Finally, as far as the removal process, I've read that some people have removed the steering wheel to get the gauge cluster out. I didn't have to do that, and found that the "trick" was to disconnect the three electrical connectors before pulling the cluster out. Once I figured that out, it came out easily, with plenty of clearance. And Pickwick, thanks for the screw-by-screw description of the removal process. Just one very small correction (at least as it applies to my '92), in case it might confuse somebody. There are actually nine screws that hold the cluster to the black/clear cover, not eight. Although, maybe there are year-to-year variances, so maybe some have eight screws, and some nine. But again, thanks for the description, it was very helpful to confirm I was on the right track once I got the cluster out of the car.



Thanks again for all the great info on this very common problem. Hopefully I'll have it back together soon, as soon as I get the new gear or gears.
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#68

All of Jeff's gears (odometergears.com) are $25.00 IIRC. Make sure you are getting the correct one. "E15" is the small amber one, 15 tooth. He sells two pods - one 12 tooth and one 17. Ours is the 17 tooth f/u/w 911 and 968.



- Darryl
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#69

[quote name='Darryl' post='42702' date='Oct 21 2007, 12:31 PM']All of Jeff's gears (odometergears.com) are $25.00 IIRC. Make sure you are getting the correct one. "E15" is the small amber one, 15 tooth. He sells two pods - one 12 tooth and one 17. Ours is the 17 tooth f/u/w 911 and 968.



- Darryl[/quote]



Thanks; I think I misread odometergears.com's prices the last time I looked. You're right, each gear is $25, not $25 and $50 as I had thought. The link to his pictures are down at the moment. What is meant by the "pod"? Is it the black gear on the motor driveshaft that drives the 15-tooth amber gear?



By the way, has anybody ever had any gear other than the amber one break? Thanks.
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#70

sending you a PM with brett's email info - he isn't o this site often, so a PM won't work well
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94 Midnight Metallic Blue Cab Porsche 968 w/deviating cashmere/black interior and WAY too many mods to list - thanks to eric for creating www.968forums.com



"It isn't nearly as expensive to do it right as it is to do it wrong."
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#71

[quote name='Cloud9...68' post='42703' date='Oct 21 2007, 01:45 PM']Thanks; I think I misread odometergears.com's prices the last time I looked. You're right, each gear is $25, not $25 and $50 as I had thought. The link to his pictures are down at the moment. What is meant by the "pod"? Is it the black gear on the motor driveshaft that drives the 15-tooth amber gear?



By the way, has anybody ever had any gear other than the amber one break? Thanks.[/quote]



The "pod" is just the other gear that the smaller amber gear fits on/into.



- Darryl
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#72

Ah, so I guessed right. OK, thanks. Has anybody ever had one of these fail? Just looking at it, it looks like it might be a bit of a challenge to remove & replace.
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#73

Both of my gears, although niether was broken, were easy to remove. My odometer is still only about 85% reliable, but at least I don't guilty about driving the car more. I wish my gears were broken - I'd know it was fixed!! My latest theory is that the larger of the two gears isn't seated properly and get s jammed. When I talked to Jeff at odometergears.com, he mentioned that these particular VDO instruments were very finicky and need to make sure they are clean and everything is setup just right. Apparently, the 911 has a similar problem.



- Darryl
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#74

I just got done replacing the broken gear with a new one I bought from Brett Augsberger, and everything now works! The regular odometer, the tripmeter, and the tripmeter reset are all functioning perfectly. Brett is still making and selling the gears for $10, including shipping, so if anyone needs one, send me a PM, and I'll get you Brett's contact information.



Just one small issue, having nothing to do with the gear. I noticed that the electrical module which contains the odometer reset button was flopping in the breeze, because its mounting tab does not fit securely into the hole that it goes into. Does anybody who's had their dash out recently remember if this hole is supposed to have some sort of seal, like a small o-ring, to enable the tab to fit securely? I have a picture (sorry my pictures have been turning out so fuzzy lately, but you can see the hole I'm talking about) which shows the hole that the tab fits into in the center of the picture (there is a smaller alignment hole below and slightly to the left of the hole the tab goes into). The module is off to the right, and you can see its tab coming out of its back.



I'm trying to figure out the best way to better secure the module without gluing it in permanently. Masking tape, or even duct tape, would become brittle over time, so I'd like to use something that would stay pliable. I'll call the local Porsche dealer tomorrow to see if there is anything that's supposed to fit into the hole. Thanks in advance.
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#75

In my car, the module with the reset button is held in place with a zip-tie.
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#76

[quote name='Anchorman' post='43180' date='Nov 5 2007, 07:28 AM']In my car, the module with the reset button is held in place with a zip-tie.[/quote]

Doh! Why didn't I think of that? Thanks.
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#77

That's why we're all here - so someone will think of something we should have. No problem.
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#78

[quote name='pickwick' post='25629' date='Aug 27 2006, 01:24 PM']Today I fixed my odo with Brett's gear. My photos look much like sp4149's above so I won't post any. Eight screws for the oval bezel, four screws and three connectors for the panel, eight screws to remove the cluster from the black/clear cover, four to remove the speedometer unit, and two to remove the little motor to get to the broken gear.



I wasn't able to remove the panel w/o removing the steering wheel; I was having to pull too hard and didn't want to break anything else. So add two Torx screws and a connector to remove the airbag, a 24mm nut to remove the wheel, and four screws to remove the rectangular cover behind the wheel.



Was easier than I expected. And whoever said their voltmeter now reads higher: mine does too, by a good half volt.[/quote]



Pickwick,



Lost a tooth on my odo gear last week. You post was very helpful. The new gear is in place, along with red covers on 3 new instrument lights. Looks great at night. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



I ran into a problem replacing one of the small black holder lamps. I bought some from Porsche but they are not an exact replacement for the stock units and do not fit into the hole. I believe that the part number is 999-631-301-90. Can anyone confirm? The body of the OEM and the wrong ones only say " OSRAM 12/1.2 "

Thanks

Brian
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#79

[quote name='Brett968' post='11771' date='Oct 27 2005, 01:33 PM']I am selling/providing gears for $10/each shipped (continental U.S.) for anyone that is in need. Just shoot me an email/PM.



Brett[/quote]



Hi Brett,I just purchased a 1994 968 cab and on the trip home the odometer quit working.Do you have any gears left?

Rene <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/sad.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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#80

Rene, first of all, welcome to the wonderful world of 968 ownership. I'm surprised your odometer gear broke on your first ride - you're supposed to get at least one problem-free ride before the gremlins attack. Happily, though, you've found the site that will answer all of your questions. Again, welcome.

Jim
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