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Odometer Question
#1

My odometer and trip odometer stopped working. I have been reading topics on the forum about this, and have already received my replacement gear from odometergears.com (thanks to everyone who posted info on this topic)

I have not been able to find the detailed instructions on how to remove the instrument cluster and am hesitant to go try and figure it out. I would really appreciate it if someone could point me to the detailed instructions for removing the cluster.

Thanks in advance
-Frank
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#2

Just did this little Jewel within the last few eeks. Theres no instructions here on how to wiggle the instrument cluster out of the hole. I would have a small ,brite flashlight handy so you can look around the back of the cluster to see what I am going to descibe. You have about 4-5 screws holding the black plastic shroud in place above and below the cluster with I think 3 more in the vent area. Once those are out, the shroud is pliable enough to clear and set aside. Theres 4 screws holding the cluster in....2 right, 2-left. take those out and the cluster is free. Pull the cluster out a little from the right side so you can reach around and disconnect the right harness and the Center harness. (Theres 3 harnesses total, 1right, 1 Center, 1 Left). Use the flashlight to look back there first. Keep in mind that there are 2 wing arms holding the male and female ends together acting as locking clips on each harness that must be released or you will break the clip end at the end of those arms that hold the harness together. I can't remember if they pivot left or right, but if you try with your fingers, they release pretty easy. Do the same for the other to harnesses when you get to them. Once the right side is done, push the cluster back in the hole and try to get the left side out a little so you can reach around and disconnect that harness. With the harnesses disconnected, you need to take the cluster out from the right side. You may have to pull down a bit on the bottom of the dashboard and do some wiggleing of the cluster, but I assure you, it will come out. Just be carefull of the plastic pieces at the bottom of the cluster where the female harness ends are so you don't break them if you get a bit aggresive. Be patient.........it will come out. Going back in is really the reverse............get the cluster in the hole first, reconnect the 3 harnesses and screw it all back up..............
Good Luck.
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#3

Thanks !!!
I am printing this now and heading down to the garage shortly.
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#4

i did the same repair a few months ago and used info from http://www.clarks-garage.com/ for the gauge removal and odometer repair. use the link called 'garage shop manual' to get there. good luck
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#5

Thanks again to both of you, and to everyone else on the forum who posted info on the odometer repair. I took care of this yesterday and things are working perfectly again. This forum is really incredible. Someday I hope to have accumulated enough knowledge to pay back a little :-)

-Frank
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#6

I just realized today that my odometer has stopped working, so I am another victum of the dreaded gear failure. I have 2 questions, my car is a VERY early 92 production run, I believe Sept of 91 production. Does anybody have an early 92 that can tell me how many teeth on the gear or do Ihave to pull the cluster and check the color? I hate to have the car disabled while I wait for the gear. Question 2 is do you need to pull the steering wheel or can it be done without pulling it. I did look at Clark's garage, but wanted to be sure. Thanks guys!
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#7

I can only answer question 2 : it can be done without removing the steering wheel , but it is not easy.

Lots of slow and methodical wiggling and very careful pulling and pushing and lots of patience needed .

I watched someone do that, it was not me who performed the task.
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#8

I have an early 92, #147. Let me check my records, I might have the gear info you need. I replaced mine a couple of years ago.
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#9

Pulling the wheel is not hard and makes the job much easier. There is less chance of busting old brittle plastic.

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#10

1) The gears are available very inexpensively on a popular auction site Rolleyes. I would suggest ordering both options, then you will have the one you need on hand and will be out all of $6. 

 

2) The second post above (Wiseman) details how to remove the gauge cluster without taking off the steering wheel. It is a challenge the first time you do it - but in my opinion not really difficult unless you have unusually large hands/fingers.

 

The gauge cluster slides out pretty easily without the wheel removed. It has to be angled - so left side of the cluster (temp) pushed in and right side (volts) pulled out so that it's at like a 30-45 degree angle relative to how it sits when installed. Then a little pressure on the lower dash and it comes right out. It's actually pretty obvious once you get to that step how it comes out. Just needs a little wiggling sometimes. The right side white connector is vulnerable but I've found that as long as you don't force it and just finesse it, it's not at risk of breaking. 

 

I timed myself last time and I got the cluster out in 6 minutes, inclusive of removing the vent surround, without pulling the wheel. Did my whole odo gear replacement in 40 min flat. Big Grin

 

While you're in there - it's a great time to R&R the gauge lights and also clean the gauge grounds. The four "footballs" come off and you can clean the copper grounds with some isopropyl alcohol or contact cleaner. My fuel gauge actually goes to 4/4 now.

 

Also - I would very strongly recommend magnetizing your screwdriver before removing the cluster. It is a major pain to drop a screw into the abyss of the lower dash. And - the two L sided screws do not have to be removed - just loosened as the cluster is slotted.

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#11

Thanks for the input. I have heard/read that odometergears.com are very reliable. I don't want to have to do the job 2x, and I have to do it on my 928 too, so I will be patient and see what other input I get. Removing the steering wheel isn't a big deal if it needs to come off though. I would just rather avoid it, if I dont need to remove it. Thanks again for advice!
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#12

Here's the info. These were reputed to be the best gears out there, and I really didn't want to have to do the job again in a few years.

 

Odometer Gears LTD


72 Croatan Road


Newport News, VA 23606


<span style="font-family:'times new roman', serif;">Phone #757-593-3478
</span>

 

Description                   Amount


E15=15 tooth gear           25.00


16 Tooth pod/Small         25.00


Shipping                            5.95


                                      $55.95


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#13

Thanks MCL, much appreciated!
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