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No spark. Ideas why not?
#81

Wow, a rooting section. Thanks, but as I said, I feel like I need a few uninterrupted hours to work on this connector, given the propensity for the pins I managed to put in to pop out as I try to put the remaining ones in, so I'm tentatively planning to take Friday off work to work on this, and to carefully check over the other multi-pin connectors, so best case, I'll try firing it up again on Friday. Then, I would appreciate a collective karmic cyber group hug to call forth an absence of Horrible Noises, leaks in inaccessible paces, etc...
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#82

Wait till Friday???

OK...
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#83

Have faith Grasshopper!!!!!!!
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#84

Here is a pic of the engine harness side of the connector, if it is of any help.



   
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#85

Yes, that's very helpful. Thanks.
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#86

OK I have had 3 cups of coffee and my Karma is peaking. Do you feel it? lots of luck......
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#87

Today's the day. Ready to download the pictures, check the wiring diagram, and have at this thing...
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#88

Drum role please.................
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#89

The good news is that I'm now 100% certain that when I put this multi-pin connector back together, I did it incorrectly, which hopefully explains my car's symptoms. I realized what I did two years ago when I took this thing apart. Instead of simply prying apart the two halves of this connector by wedging a screwdriver between the two halves and gently twisting, something compelled me to remove the caps that hold the wires in. So, the wires did what God and Porsche never intended - they popped out.



And that's the bad news - I haven't been able to figure out how to put the wires, specifically the ones facing the firewall, with the female connectors, back into their sockets in the black plastic receptor (not sure exactly what this piece is called - I have a picture of it below).



After spending over an hour studying the wiring diagrams (thanks to Eric for pointing out where on the diagrams this connector is located) and banditsc's pictures, I'm now 100% confident as to which wire goes to which socket in the two halves of the connector. I didn't have too much trouble putting the wires with the male bullet connectors back into their half of the connector, as this is the half that goes into the DME, and thus is relatively accessible, especially with no passenger seat. The other half, on the other hand, is a nightmare. It's stuffed way back under the dash, making it hard to reach. But the worst part of it is that there are so many wires (11 total) that they all get in each others' way, making it very hard to maneuver their connectors into their sockets in the plastic connector. But the real icing on the cake is that the connectors don't fit very snugly into their sockets in the receptor, so once I get a connector seated, it pops out as I maneuver the next one into place, like a twisted game of whack-a-mole.



Here's a picture of the nightmare I'm dealing with:



   



Yes, I have to somehow maneuver that jumble of wires into that black receptor I'm holding in my left hand. I need a team of six-inch tall people. Once the female connectors are in place in the receptor, the cap will hold them snugly in place, so I should be able to easily push the other half of the connector, the one with the male connectors that I've already placed in their receptor, into the female connectors, and everything will stay together. It's getting to that point that's the challenge. I did it when I first put the engine back in the car this past April, so obviously it's possible, but I do remember it being excruciatingly difficult, and obviously very easy (at least for me) to mess up.



I need a brainstorm to figure out how to get the connectors into their correct slots, and to stay put as I put the remaining connectors in. I may have to fabricate some sort of holding device, but I'm not quite sure what form it would even take yet. Or figure out some way to make the connectors stick when I put them in the receptor. Or figure out how to move this whole mess onto my work bench. Any and all ideas are welcome. Thanks.
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#90

Cut that wire tie and should be able to pull it out more. My wire is pretty accessible, has a lot of slack to it.

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#91

It seems like most of the problem is that female connectors don't stay put. How about a little bit of hot glue (or something similarly sticky? bit of gum maybe?) around the outside of each of them as you put them in the right place?
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#92

Look for tie wraps along the female side of the wiring, you should be able to cut those and get a few more inches of slack.



How about trying to assemble the female side of the connector with it attached to the male side? Use the male pins the hold the female ones in place as you assemble it.
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#93

Exactly, I'd try to put both halves of the clamshell together, and then try to push the female pins into their holes and over the male pins.
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#94

Thanks for the suggestions, guys, but it turns out there's a very simple trick to take this job from semi-impossible, to merely annoying - remove the glove box. Once I did that, I could easily reach my left hand through the opening left by the missing glove box, and work on the connector with both hands. This actually gave me enough room to put one row of connectors in, rig up a simple holding device consisting of a C clamp and a piece of wood cut the the size to cover the row of connectors, and then put the other row of connectors in. Amazing how the simplest changes can make all the difference. It's also interesting how, when I'm stuck on some part of a project, how helpful it can be to walk away, clear my head, (writing a post about it also seems to stimulate some subconscious reasoning mechanism), and then come back to it a bit later. Much better than continuing to pound my head against the wall.



Anyway, my allergies had been bothering me this week (it is Austin, the allergy capital of the world, after all), so I hadn't been sleeping well, so I put the connector back together, and then hit the sack and finally got a really good nigh's sleep, so I'm on my way to double-check this connector one last time, as well as that other multi-pin connector near the fuse box, before trying the blink test again.
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#95

Good Luck. Let us know how it goes.
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#96

I'm quietly keeping an eye on this thread and hoping you have success!
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#97

I know what you mean Cloud when you have to step away and regroup. My regrouping/reanalyzing involves going for a 4 mile run. When I return I usually have a solution. Strange how that works. Glad to here that you zeroed in on the problem.
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#98

I'm part of this big rooting section too. Cloud's given good advice for a lot of tasks big and small. I like crossword puzzles. I'll hit a wall on one and think it's unsolvable. But often I'll come back an hour or two (or a day) later and knock off the rest in nothing flat. Guess it's just the way our brains work.



Ah forget the blink test. Turn the key. Let er rip <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.png" class="smilie" alt="" />)
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#99

Well, I take back what I said about being 100% certain about the wiring of the 14-pin connector, because something still doesn't seem right. The connector has two halves, one of which has 11 wires with male bullet connectors that lead to the DME, and one with 11 wires with female bullet connectors that go into a bundle that goes up under the dash. The half with the male connectors makes perfect sense - the wiring diagram (sheet 5, section F45) has an exact description of each of the 11 wires, which match perfectly with the pictures Banditsc posted back on Post #72 (this thread is starting to rival one of Flash's supercharger threads...). Wire colors and socket numbers are all consistent. In the picture below, you can see how the back of this half of my connector (with the male bullet connectors protruding through) match what Eric_K showed in his picture in Post #84. That is, at least in terms of the socket numbers' relation to the male bullet connectors. But I did notice something that's different: In ERic's picture, you can see that the alignment post (seen on the very left end of the connector) is near the small socket numbers, whereas on mine, the alignment post is on the end of the connector with the largest numbers. Strange...



The half of the connector with that holds the female bullet connectors is a bit more confusing, because the wiring diagram showing the wires going into this half of the connector (sheet 2, section N15) shows several of the pins with no wires going to them (specifically pins 3, 4, and 5). However, the connectors that do show wires going to them match the wire colors on the 4th of Banditsc's pictures, so I was able to figure it all out (I think...). Also, the wires coming out of the bundle are cut to lengths such that it's pretty obvious which sockets they go into. So, when I was done with this half of the connectors, I ended up with female bullet connectors going into sockets 3, 5, 1, 11, and 13 on one side, and 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, and 12 on the other, which is an exact match of the socket numbers the male bullet connectors on the other side go to. So far, so good.



The confusion comes when I put the two halves together. As I was pressing the backs of the male bullet connectors down so they would fit snugly into their corresponding female bullet connectors after I put the two halves together, I noticed that several of the connectors weren't staying in place. Hmmm... So, I pull the two halves of the connector apart again, and this is what I saw:



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As you can see, several of the male connectors (specifically 2, 5, and 13) don't have corresponding female connectors on the other side. And the same numbered female connectors don't have corresponding male connectors, so only 8 out of the 11 pairs of bullet connectors have corresponding mates. In the wiring diagram, connector 5 on the female connector side shows as not leading to anything, but 2 and 13 do. However, connectors 1, 3, 5, 9, and 14 don't show as being connected to anything on the female connector side. Does this make any sense?



Against my better judgment, I took the 14-pin connector in front of the fuse box apart, and saw that like the one in the passenger footwell, the numbers on the two halves of the connector don't line up. However, every male bullet connector has a corresponding female connector, although I took this connector apart as well when I took the engine out, so there's no guarantee this one is correct, either.



The thrill of this experience is quickly beginning to diminish. Help?
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I see the picture from my last post didn't show up, and I wasn't able to edit it, so here it is:



   
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