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[quote name='94SilverCab' post='61440' date='Oct 10 2008, 07:40 AM']I had to use a probe (Like Biololgy lab) and re-perforate all of the holes....



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[marazas]

Hi! I don't think that your seats are repainted. Mine are original (would have a receipt for that otherwise) and they feel quite plastic. Is Leatherique really that bad? I was going to buy (it is quite expensive) it but if you say that it is not worth then I should not.
On one forum I read about one using their Prestine Clean and Rejuvinator Oil with good success in Porsche 944. Could you confirm that it is crap and maybe recommend something better?

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[94SilverCab]

One of the very few products that just about everyone agrees on is Leather CPR. At the beginning of each season I apply it liberally 3-4 nights in a row and let it sink in, I like the results.

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Jay

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[rhudeboye]

Not so fast Jay.

Not sure I understand what all the hub bub is about. Does anyone have before and after pics? I used some on my old seats as well as my new ones and I see no difference. Well very little difference, there is more of a shine at the head rest and the sponge was dirty. The seats however looked nothing like the restoration shown on their web page.

http://www.leathercpr.com/demo/

I used one application with a sponge. Perhaps I'm not using enough.

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[marazas]

Yes, I would also like to see some real results and choose the best working product. Another thing that worries me is when I read the colour options from 968 catalog (pictures are posted in this forum). It says "Kunstleder-Ausstattung" which means that it is artificial leather. Does that mean that some had vinyl instead of real leather?

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[marazas]

It could be that it only refers to the rest of interior and not the seats themselves...

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[rhudeboye]

"Kunstleder-Ausstattung" which means that it is artificial leather. Does that mean that some had vinyl instead of real leather?
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I thought about that as well. My understanding is that everywhere your body touches is real leather.

Darryl- your a detail guy. Where are you?

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[Johannvb]

Yup, seat faces, steeringwheel and gear knob is leather. Seat backs and rear seats are vinyl.

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[Darryl]

Rhude, I'm here!! Sorry I hadn't caught this thread for a while. I have quite a few different products in my leather arsenal. I use Leather CPR mostly for conditioning, Leatherique Prestine Clean is a wonderful cleaner and the Lexol products also work well. I have not had an opportunity to need the Rejuvenator Oil but had heard good things about it. I also use a liquid product from Chemical Guys called Liquid Leather. I like to think of it as a quick detail spray for your seats and pretty much every time I wipe down my interior, my seats (and other leather surfaces) get a quick spritz of Liquid Leather.

Also, correct...seat backs are vinyl. If anyone is planning on recovering their seats, last I heard, some Porsche vinyl was unavailable so most upholsterers are doing full leather.

- Darryl

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[DaveN]

For what it's worth I have used Leatherique fo rthe past few years adn it seem to do the trick. A couple of times a year I soak my 2 seats, steering wheel and gershift boot/knob on a hot day. It soaks/bakes into the leather in a half a day and keepts the leather soft. The other surfaces get 303 (seat backs).
The demos of that other product look a bit "as seen on TV" cheesy. After all if you wet any rock on the beach it looks wonder full. That's all they do is wet the leather down and everything comes up shiney; they use dry, dirty products to begin with of course.
Yes I'm a born again cynic, you should have seen me the first time around [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]

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[flash]

the key to CPR doing its job is to clean the seats first with soap and water and a clean WHITE rag - you really have to scrub to get all those year of crap and goopy leather treatment stuff out of there

then you apply GENEROUSLY - don't leave globs, but you want a nice full coat - do not rub off - do not rub in - let sit overnight

then do it again

maybe a third time, but this time it will only take a couple of hours to soak in

now you will have nicely softened and beautiful looking leather (or at least as good as it will get)

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[rhudeboye]

<i>'Darryl' most upholsterers are doing full leather.</i>
Good point. Id prefer it
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'DaveN' I soak my 2 seats,

'flash' apply GENERO</i>USLY -

I see the common thread here. I'm going to apply a heavy coat tomorrow. Garage temps are around 35 degrees, will that have a negative effect?

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[flash]

thoroughly clean it first - scrub the crap out of it with a mild soap and water - i like the generic orange colored anti bacterial hand soap stuff - do NOT use a dish soap with citrus in it - do NOT use a laundry detergent

otherwise, the CPR will just sit on top of all the gunk clogging the pores of the leather - it's skin after all - treat it as such

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[DaveN]

I know for Leatherique 35 degrees (I'm assuming old world Fahrenheit [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img] will take a week to soak in if not more. Heck, even maple trees don't want to give up sap at that temp!
I would bring the car indoors if you can and at least get it up to room temp if you are going to treat the leather.

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[marazas]

Ok, I see that I wil have to wait for warmer weather for leather treatments but Leatherique is back on the wish list after some nice words from Darryl and DaveN. Strange that flash had completely opposite experience of Leatherique products.

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[Johannvb]

Flash, when you say scrub, do you mean with a brush or a cloth? If you refer to a brush, what kind?

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[flash]

with a cloth - the idea is to flex the skin so that the pores are manipulated, and the gunk comes out

the cloth should be white too, to avoid any chance of dye bleeding, or anything from the cloth getting into the skin, and also to give you an indication of where you are

my experiences with leatherique are not horrible, and certainly not "opposite" - not sure where that came from - they just weren't as good as with the CPR when used as i am indicating

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[rhudeboye]

Thanks guys. I'll also wait for warmer days before doing this full treatment. Actually, this weekend is supposed to be mid 50s.

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[marazas]

Flash, sorry for misinterpretation!
I will see if there is CPR here available.

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[flash]

no worries - it happens - that's the problem of not having vocal inflection - many people misread what somebody is really trying to say, because they add in their own perspective

one of the best things i got from school was the ability to read something and try to figure out what the writer was saying, as opposed to what it meant to me - seeing something from another perspective

anyway, good luck with the CPR - i really like it

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