[Ernie]

So I have a question as I'm detailing today. Does anyone apply 303 over the leather after applying leather CPR? 303 is supposed to be a UV protectant, but I wonder if it "coats" the leather? Any input guys?

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[flash]

as 303 is a sealer of sorts, i would think it would work counter to what CPR does, which is rehydrate the leather.  303 would tend to prevent that.  it's really for vinyl and not leather.  properly hydrated, UV is not as much of a problem with leather as it is with synthetic materials.

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[Ernie]

I have only used leather CPR in the past. I just noted on the 303 bottle that it was for leather also. Leather CPR it is then.

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[Rap]

Leather balsam

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[ds968]

Although 303 is about as close as you get to a "miracle product" , and it certainly won't hurt leather, it's not really ideal for that use . Great for pretty much everything else synthetic however ; plastics, vynil, fiberglass , carbon fiber , etc.

I think I probably tried every top end leather product made for over 40'years now and although Leather CPR is indeed very good, nothing even comes close to Manchester Leather Food . It's phenomenal IMO, both in terms of immediate results and more importantly preservation / protection longevity . One application per year is sufficient . It's a very soft paste consistency .

Side note : Manchester Leather Food is made by the same company as Chelsea Leather Food , I believe it has the exact same ingredients , but the scent is very nice, as opposed to the Chelsea paste which smelled almost like kerosine. Even with Chelsea the scent goes away in half a day, but with Manchester you won't mind the fragrance at all, short lived as it may be .

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[Ernie]

Well I got a bunch of bottles of leather CPR on sale at Marshall's, cheap. So I stocked up! It's leather CPR for now, but I'll add the others to my "preferred products" list. Thanks for the advise, guys.

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[flash]

no, 303 won't likely hurt leather, but, as i said above, the problem with a product like 303, when used on leather, is that it acts as a sealer.  leather needs to breathe, and be able to absorb moisture.  i love 303, and prefer it over other products on vinyl and plastic, but i won't let it near my leather.

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[Ernie]

Ds, I see that Manchester Leather Food comes in black. Have you ever used any of this with "tint" in it? I have a black interior and a bit of bolster discoloration (who doesn't?) and wonder if that may help "hide" it? It doesn't annoy me to the point that I want to bother with dying it yet, though.

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[ds968]

Ds, I see that Manchester Leather Food comes in black. Have you ever used any of this with "tint" in it? I have a black interior and a bit of bolster discoloration (who doesn't?) and wonder if that may help "hide" it? It doesn't annoy me to the point that I want to bother with dying it yet, though.

No, I have only used the neutral color paste , but that's an interesting question considering you have black seats ; I suppose it depends on the kind of dye they use for their black paste and how much that helps restore the black where you have discoloration.

However, I do know this : both Chelsea and Mancheter leather food was primarily made for treatment of soccer shoes made of calf leather or kangaroo leather which are almost all black, and can get discolored after a lot of abuse being trashed about and also exposed to sun , rain , and all those elements , so maybe the black dye in it does put color back into the leather . But if that's the case it could come off on your clothes as you sit in the car whereas you don't sit on your soccer shoes, lol, so that's not a concern .

If you have black leather shoes you need to condition, and want to buy it just to test it on those first and after maybe half an hour or so see if wiping them briskly with a white cloth brings anything up , you'll have your answer.


And maybe this belongs in the " Imelda how many shoes do you own ? " thread but I've been using Chelsea and now Manchester paste on all my shoes , which ( and RAP will appreciate this.. ) range from a low of $ 800 to about $ 2,000 a pair and everywhere in between those price points , so not something I'd want to take a chance compromising with leather treatment that's anything less than the best . If it's good enough for the shoes it's definitely good enough for my car seats !!

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[Ernie]

Do you actually walk, on the ground, in $2000.00 shoes? I would not want to get them soiled! LOL! So yes I think that's a good idea to try out. Treat some shoes (although I don't own any $2K ones) and see if it rubs off. If it works at darkening the bolster, it may be any easy fix for those of us with black interiors? I imagine one could use leather CPR over top of it too? I'll be the ginuea pig!

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[ds968]

If you apply it to all four seats ( ok, 2 full seats and 2 tiny seats ) you should get about three or four uses out of one can. I think they're around $ 20 - $ 25 a can, so not a bad price IMO for the number of applications you'll get out of it . For me once a year has been ok, but some may want to do that more frequently so even at six months intervals the price is not bad when compared to other high grade leather treatments costs and how long those may last .

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[Ernie]

Did my shoe tease hit a nerve??? Just kidding! Don't forget that Ihave a cab... I'm thinking 1 can every 6 months would last me a year. $20 for nice seats, versus 100 pairs of shoes? I'm game! Sorry I couldn't resist, no harm meant!

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[Waylander]

I would not put synthetic gunge on a natural product


I'm with flash on this one, I don't think sealing the surface is a good idea

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[Ernie]

Lol, serves me rite for being a wise guy. It's actually 1 pair of shoes would yield me 100 years worth of Manchester. My bad!

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[Ernie]

I agree Waylander, that's why I posed the question. I have just used the leather CPR, but I actually read the bottle and it said it worked on leather, so I figured I would ask. I'm going to give ds' suggestion a try, and will report back on its effacacy.

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[ds968]

Ha, no nerves struck at all , I'm not the least bit affected by things like that ; everyone has a different value system they apply to their own priorities and what they perceive is worth spending money on or not.

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[Rap]

Value system. Has no one tried leather balsam. It’s from England. I use it and seems to work great. I have this old Denali and the seats look like new!

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[ds968]

What brand is it ? Or is " leather balsam " both the proprietary brand name as well as it is the product's description ? Never hurts to test new things ..

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[Rap]

Renapur.

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[paulzebo]

When I bought the first 968 back in 2013, it looked like the seats were never treated with anything. Dry and stiff. After quite a bit of research, I decided "Leather Honey" was my best bet. So I applied it, rolled up the windows on a sunny 115 degree day and let it bake in. 2nd day, the same, third day the same, reapplying the Leather Honey each day. Forth day it would not absorb any more. Everyone who gets into it notices the smell of fresh leather. It's now soft and pliable and I'm ready to do it on number two 968. When it gets warmer....

 

 

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