[Rap]

When you say bake in did you use the recommended amount of product or a little more? Being of the mind, not always correct, that more is better I let mine sit overnight before I rub in and then buff.

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[paulzebo]

A little more. I use enough to make the seat shiny, close the  door and let the sun bake the interior up to 180 degrees.

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[Rap]

Do you then buff it?

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[Waylander]

He did the job fully dressed

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[az968]

Thanks, Waylander. I'll have a hard time getting that image out of my head :-(

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[az968]

Just finished using Leather Honey on the passenger seat in my 911. Applied it yesterday and buffed it off this evening, 24 hrs later (fully clothed, before you ask). Initial impression is that the seat looks almost brand new now. Even some wear marks don't show now. I'll report back in about a week as to how it seems to last. Doesn't take much, it's quite viscous and sticky and it has to be rubbed in well. Got a nice email from the company president with some application tips and a note to let him know if any questions - nice touch.

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[Waylander]

Glad to hear that some clothing was involved, sorry for the comment about Buff it seems to have got stuck in the memory

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[Ernie]

Ok guys, I ordered the leather balsam and the manchester leather food (in black) and they arrived today. I am going to perform some non scientific analysis, and report back the results. I have used leather cpr in the past and want to compare to that also. I have not tried the leather honey, but may give that a try in the future. Stay tuned

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[az968]

i've not used leather balsam before and just used leather honey for the first time.  will be nice to see how they all stack up.

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[ds968]

From an auto detail service provider and sponsor on the Maserati forum :


Although there are many leather care products out there, many people do not realize that modern leathers are not like the traditional car leathers used in earlier cars. Most modern cars, even very high end cars like Rolls Royce and Bentley, are using leathers that are highly treated and have an exterior coating that is , essentially , flexible plastic. So any leather treatments that are applied do not penetrate the exterior coating and really cannot "rejuvinate" the leather of a modern car "


Problem is he did not specify what " modern " means in terms of the point in time when traditional leather transitioned to treated leather .

I posted a question on that, but I presume this was post-968 era , and that our cars still have the basic leather seats ..

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[Ernie]

So, I tried ds' suggestion of manchester leather food a couple of days ago. I used the black tint on blach seats. It did provide a slightly polished effect to the leather... but you had to rub the excess off several times. It left a shiney film that had to be repeatedly buffed. Results? Well the seats, boot and steering wheel look very good! Stil a bit slimey, even after polishing. Btw, don't think about sitting on the seats without rubbing them down 3-4 times!!!!!

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[Ernie]

I have to say, it's like shining black leather shoes! I think ds described it as such. I'm moving on to leather balsam now.

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[ds968]

Hmm, I wonder if the black version of the Manchester product has different propensities than the neutral paste by virtue of that dye being made of something which leaves a shiny film residue requiring greater buffing . I wipe the seats only once with a clean cloth after applying the paste and rubbing it in, and there is not the slightest hint of any stickiness , residue / film , or things like that . That's why I hesitated to endorse anything in a different color, dyes are almost never ideal .

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[Waylander]

Not in the buff, try a gold shiny thong see if that sorts it out

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[Rap]

As have you tried the leather balsam?
Az

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[az968]

Only tried the Leather Honey, and no, Rap, you aren't my honey lol.


It would be a good comparison to try LH and LB tho haven't done it. Ernie, do you have LH to compare?

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[Ernie]

Not yet, but I ordered it. I wonder if the leather food didn't totally absorb because I regularly use leather CPR? Maybe thats why it left a film? It seems like good stuff! The experiment continues. Btw, my seats are not that old. 70K, so maybe it absorbs better on older leather too?

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[Rap]

Honey don’t.

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[az968]

Don't get sand all over your seat.

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[flash]

the key to any good leather treatment, and good long term results, is that it have a strong base in animal product, and not be synthetic, and more importantly, not be oil based.  that's why i like CPR.  it has its base in animal fat.  that's why the leather absorbs it so well.  it's "going back home".  the synthetic stuff may look good at first, but a few years later, the leather will dry out and crack.

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