Poll: What would you do if you totaled your 968? - You do not have permission to vote in this poll.
Buy another one.
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Buy another more expensive car.
27.45%
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Buy a different same value car.
7.84%
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Fix the car at all costs.
1.96%
1
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Turn Amish and give up on cars altogether.
5.88%
3
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other
9.80%
5
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If you totaled your 968................
#21

I have voted, I would buy another one. In fact, I am looking to buy another one anyway - don't tell my wife. THere were 8 manual 968 convertibles imported into Australia - I am waiting for one to come up.

If I totalled mine, I would buy it back as a wreck. I would then import one for competition purposes and refit all of the good bits and make a pure competition car. I would also like another one.

I like most here have spent WAY TOO MUCH on modifying my car. It is now an excellent track day car. I have people come up to me at events and enthuse about how planted and stable the car is compared to 911's. I love being able to hassle 996 Cup cars around Lakeside when the car has half the horsepower and is not on slick tyres.

I like the 968 as it is anti-Porsche establishment. I love the fact that a non-911 Porsche won our championship last year and pissed off all of the die hard 911 fanatics. The 968 is a thinking person's Porsche. It was built in limited numbers - around 11,000 over 3 years - more Boxsters were made each year of production. THere were only 112 imported into Australia in total - it is a rare car. It has 50/50 weight distribution, in its day it was hailed as the best handling car in the world - no contest. If you think - you would buy one over a 911 - if you like to look at your image in the mirror a 911 is for you.

There is alot going for the car - you can (like a 944) fit around 14 cases of beer in the back - it is immensely practical.

I really want more power. I lust after the 500hp Powerhaus engine - just to show those that think the only Porsche is a 911 - that a combination of handling, power and balance will always win. I love the underdog tag and how the car hits above its weight. People cannot belive that a car that puts out 240hp can do the times my car does - I love upsetting the establishment and the moneyed few.

At our last track day, I was the second slowest terminal speed on the main straight, but around the top third in lap times. Speed is not everything. The combination of brakes, stability and handling more than comprensate. I was racing with a new R35 Nissan GT-R and I can corner quicker - all I need is more power (and he was on twin groove slicks). My G-Box quotes that I can pull up to 1.3 lateral G's cornering.

THe 968 is an excellent car. It is a giant killer. It is like the Cayman - if developed to it's potential, it would topple the 911 as a drivers car.

For those that cannot look behind the image and their nose - I love the 968 for what it is - it is not a 911 with all of the snobbery that the car brings, it is emensely tunable and upgradable, and it is the underdog that will win and surprise those who think money wins all arguments. It is the David versus the Porsche establishment. Raise a middle finger to those who just do not know how good a 968 is and cannot see past their preconceived snobbery.

Would I buy another one - I would buy them all. If I could, I would have a standard one, a supercharged one, a convertible, a tarmac rally car and the ultimate track weapon - the 500hp turbo version.

I am off to buy a Lotto ticket to live my dream.
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#22

all interesting stuff - keep it coming
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#23

As time goes by I have, like many of you folks, become very familiar with the 968. When my son wants me to work on his Ford Focus I wonder how to do it. I think, this thing is hard to work on. It probably isn't that difficult, but I am not used to it like I am the 968.

I would not be afraid to tackle most any project on my car....because of its design and because I have become familiar with it. There is something to be said about being comfortable with a platform and not afraid to dive in. It feels like I could make this car last forever.

That being said....there are so many new technologies coming on board in the auto business. I think gas prices are going to taxed up to the $4ish region in order to help electric cars come on board. I think there are going to be some exciting hybrid sports cars very soon. The high torque from an electric motor combined with a small turbo gas or diesel may be the next big rush. I don't know, but I see our cars becoming old school pretty fast.

So I am torn...I love the 968, but I can see the writing on the wall and I think very cool stuff is just a few years off. What to do?????
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#24

Ok, I voted for buy another one but could've been buy a more expensive car too - My coupe is my daily driver and if it were to be totaled in my mind I would look to replace it with a cab as a play car and then probably look for a used cayman (if I fit? 6'4" - which while I really like the NSX - head room is an issue) to be my daily driver...

But in reality we have a two car garage and the wife gets one side so if I had two cars one would have to be parked outside...and during the summer I ride my bike to work so the coupe gets minimal miles (I've had it for 7 years this July and have put about 48K on it during that time - up to 66k now)...so two cars would hard to justify to the wife and shes not a cab fan...

Sam
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#25

Flash - "having a great 968 is like being the smartest guy on the short bus"

Aint that the truth...I like to think the 968 is the thinking man's Porsche. Everytime I drive it, and it doesn't act up or make funny noises, I get an ear to ear grin. That did not happen with my 911s...

But I have a "never buy the same car twice" rule. Life is too short for that.
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#26

I don't know about that short bus stuff. You guys are over thinking this. This is not logical - its emotional. If you want a good reliable DD for $10K go buy a 2004 Civic. This car speaks to us when we hammer the throttle, blip a down shift, or nail an apex near the edge of adhesion. I am convinced that we all drive this car, either as our DD, track toy, or Sunday cruiser, for the same reason. WE LOVE THE WAY IT MOVES - peace out.
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#27

reliability really had nothing to do with my question - it was really all about what somebody would do if they suddenly lost their 968

i find the car heavy, slow, and primitive, given what else is out there - i have gone to great pains to resolve some of that, but as a result of assessing my progress, i have been thinking about it a lot lately, and thought i would pose the question, as i am not entirely sure what i would do myself, and thought others might be in the same position
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#28

Flash asks "....would do if they suddenly lost their 968"
Well, only testimonial I could offer is my experience. I remember documenting all the details and figures in prior posts from a couple of years ago, but insurance totaled the car for about $12.5 K, I bought it back for roughly $1.5 (or something like that), and with about $2K or so in parts, tools and repairs, got my car back. And lot's of rewarding elbow grease in the garage; it was actually a lot of fun doing the self repair, had nothing to loose.

Flash states: "i find the car heavy, slow, and primitive, given what else is out there -"
Yup, there are many out there which are closer to street legal go-cart, the 968 isn't one of them. Can't disagree at all since I grew up with my friends on Triumphs, Austin Healeys, and MGs. And drove a 911 for 11 years. Definitely agree.

But that isn't my purpose for the 968. My purpose is grand touring, a blend of power, handling, comfort, excitement, interior space, daily driver, feel a little special, reliability, the date car, at a good value point. 968s do that with high excellence. And yeah, I take it to the home depot all the time and haul pipe, lumber, etc stuff in the back [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif[/img]

Roland
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#29

lol - i can't argue with any of that - we all have our own reasons for liking the car

for me, practicality doesn't factor into why i like the car, or any part of the decision as to where i would go from here - i have a different car for each use

i have the big SUV for towing, picking stuff up, and long comfortable trips
i have the SL550 for her commute, nights out, and the occasional weekend
i have the blue 968 for the weekend wine trips and fun jaunts
the white 968 will be just a daily driver/spare car when it comes back here
the TR-4 will be just a collector car
there will be a track toy

the question is what else and why?
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#30

what a great thread! thank you flash for posting the question. I really like what craigawoodman wrote - and the rest of y'all as well.

the interesting thing to me - at risk of coming across as completely wishy-washy - is that I find myself in full agreement with all of your contradictory opinions:

yeah - she's slow fat and heavy
yeah - she's absolutely beautiful from the right angles
yeah - she's unique and different
yeah - there is a certain uh... elegance and grace... and practical usefulness... a friendly quality to the car
yeah - she can kick some ass
yeah - the hatch holds my road bike easier and better than a bike rack or the land rover
yeah - she's a high-maintenance labor of love
yeah - the little noises are REALLY getting on my nerves

for me flash has provided the perfect cop-out answer: if I had the option I would 'go Amish' and give up cars altogether.

but in the meantime - like choosing a mate - I'm very devoted to my 968 and won't abandon her unless she dies on me.

you makes yer choice then stick with it. comparing cars with too much seriousness is a fools errand.
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#31

lol - this has been fun - everybody has different lives and different wants, needs, histories, and priorities - it's very cool to see what people think, why, and what might influence that
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#32

Heavy is a relative thing - at 1,400kg as a complete car - that is not heavy in today's car weights. Strip out all of the junk and niceties and you can get it down to around 1,200kg with a cage.

Mine still weighs 1,400kg.

As for other cars - I have an Audi Q7 which I do around 60,000km a year for work and towing the 968 on a trailer to trackdays (1,100km round trip). I need a 7 seater for when the outlaws come visiting with two kids. I just bought an Audi A5 convertible for my wife - it was her turn to have something she wanted for a change. Both are great cars. This week I have done two trips of 620km return without a problem in the Q7.

I like the 997 GT3, but I have to have four seats with two young kids (my eldest daughter is a petrol head like her dad). I have never owned a 911 and do not know if I could drive one (on a track) - I am used to cars that behave "normally". Having the engine behind the rear axle would be a weird feeling. The 968 is such a well balanced car - it is flattering.

As for the rattles - we all must be a little anal here, as I too hate rattles, but somehow can accept them in the 968. I have got rid of most, but there are a few small issues to still be resolved.

I just cannot see another car which is as capable for the money. Any 911 is more - regardless of how hopeless it is. I love the fact that for less than a mid-80's 911, you can have a car that can run rings around it. For a minimal investment more, you can start to challenge serious cars. My 968 is capable on a twisty track of posting the same lap times as a Cayman S (and it costs 1/5 of the Cayman and has less power). Has the world really moved on. You can get better than 30mpg on the open road. And a Cayman is still not as practical as a 968 (no rear seats and not as big a boot).

If people only knew how good the 968 is - it would be worth double its current price.

So it would seem we are a cerebal bunch - who think rather than follow. We are able to evaluate alternatives - perhaps this is how we came to have the 968 in the first place.

As for maintenance costs - try an early 911 or an early 996. Both have a habit of destroying engines - which are more costly to repair. You can buy a whole car for $10k - a rebuilt engine for a 911 is more than this.

I do not think I will sell mine. I have had a couple of people ask to buy it - but like most good relationships, you have invested and got a lot out of it and then it just seems too difficult to start again with something new.

I guess the message is simply enjoy it for what it is - a little bit of escapism and individuality in a very "me too" world. Viva la difference.







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#33

I voted to go Amish, but it would only be in the short term.
When I initially bought the 968 (two years ago, how time flies), I had plans to do a lot of refreshing of components.
But in the meantime, I've had another child (okay, not me personally), and moved to a bigger house. A lot of other things competing for time, attention, and funds.
Even basic maintenance is still taking a big chuck of the family budget. So, initially, I'd just take a break from motoring for a while.

In a few years time, I'm sure the idea of a Porsche in the garage would arise again. I have thought about another Porsche, a Cayman or a 993 would be at the top of the list. But I have yet to drive another car that handles as well as the 968.

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#34

It's the very journey from semi-insanity to quality of purpose that Pirsig elaborated in "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance." Enjoy.
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#35

Depends on how much the insurance company would pay me. But the money would be a down for either a 993 RUF BTR2 or an aeroplane. As JvB said - life is too short...
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#36

Another angle to the relative merits of the 968 vs. other similarly priced cars hit me on the way to work today. I've long thought the early 90s Toyota MR2 turbo would make a fantastic track car, so I started contemplating whether it would make a suitable replacement for the 968 as a street car as well if my 968 were totaled. Kind of hard to argue against it - a bullet-proof Toyota engine with endless tuning potential, a lightweight mid-engine chassis, attractive (though not in the 968's league, in my opinion) styling, etc. Then I realized that I have a hard time picturing anyone much over 30 in that car, and the same could be said for the RX7 twin turbo, the Supra turbo of the same era, the Miata, etc.

Then it hit me - another great, intangible feature of the 968 is it's "agelessness" - I can just as easily picture a 22-year-old guy buying one as his first cool car, as I can a 65-year-old distinguished gentleman driving a perfectly restored example, and everything in between. The car just looks right in any decent person's hands, regardless of where they are in life's journey. I can't think of another car available for such a low price about which I could say the same thing.
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#37

Do you mean: "if you totaled your 968, <b>again</b>?" [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]
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#38

There are benefits in buying another one as I would know what to do with it in order to get it to be the way I want. But then again, that advantage is also a great disadvantage as owning car, for me that is, is so much more than just driving it. I like to drive them off course but I also like to learn about them and work on them, making them better (or at least more me). I have yet to own a car that I have not tinkered with to some degree. This may sound a bit corny but I don't know how to put it but I grow with my cars and as the car evolves, so do I. If I got another one we would not be at the same point in life and hence we would probably not get along as I do with my current car. It's a "been there, done that" situation if you get what I mean.
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#39

Wow, that is exactly the way I feel!
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#40

Had to vote 'other'. I would repair the car, but only up to a certain cost, say 50-60% of current value.
If this would not be possible I would buy an other car - BMW Z4 M Coupe.
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