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I found another 15-25hp in the SC kit.
#21

lol - i wish. like i said, i expect to see at least 15 and as much as 25hp over the output of the kit as is. it isn't a lot, but it should be danged respectable.
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#22

[quote name='flash' timestamp='1335137153' post='125923']

i always anticipated delving into a "stage 2" kit, but never intended to increase boost to do it. this add-on will generate more power, and consequently cost more, but will be a direct "bolt on upgrade" to the existing kit. there will be no weird standalone setups, no injector changes, no race gas requirements, and no pulley or belt changes.



i look forward to revealing the design.

[/quote]



So you're either changing the mapping or modifying the intake.
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#23

lol - i'm not telling right now. it's fairly "out of the box" thinking though.
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#24

It's just a mini-bar fridge from Sears bolted to the intake manifold! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/wink.png" class="smilie" alt="" /> But, Shhhh it's a secret <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.png" class="smilie" alt="" />
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'93 968SC Nachtblau Metallic Coupe

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#25

Maybe it's the Peter Brock Energy Polariser (google it). That was fairly out of the box thinking..
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#26

[quote name='flash' timestamp='1335187228' post='125957']

lol - i'm not telling right now. it's fairly "out of the box" thinking though.

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don't tell me we have to add electric motors to the transaxle <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/ninja.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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#27

Crap, where am I going to mount the solar panel?!
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#28

funny stuff guys - i'm loving this.



it's so cool to see people having fun musing, confident that whatever it is, that it will work. i think that having all of the kits out there doing what they are supposed to helps that a lot. not having to be the guinea pig, fiddle around, or work things out after the fact, and having something fully tested and proven BEFORE it goes to market, does a lot in the way of instilling confidence.





lol - for giggles i did a bit of calculator fiddling.



now keep in mind that it is very easy to manipulate dyno numbers. all you have to do is make the common mistakes of entering the dyno room temp, rather than the actual intake temp at the filter, and you get higher numbers. similarly, if you use the SAE correction factor, which assumes an 18% drivetrain loss, you get artificially high numbers. on some dynos, like the mustang, which attempt to create "real world" loads, you have to enter the drag coefficients and weight of the car. if you fiddle with those, it is very easy to inflate the numbers.



garbage in - garbage out. a dyno is only as good as the operator.



that's why i turn off all correction factors and just read what it gets at the wheels, without anybody entering in anything arbitrary. we calibrate the tach to the speedo, so the dyno is reading correctly, and enter air pressure and intake temp at the filter (not ambient temp). we don't try to guess what the losses are, or what other factors "might" produce what effects.



that being said, and back to the calculator fiddling, given that the dyno i tested on reads a good 6% lower than a dynojet, and if you use the 15% drivetrain loss figures being tossed around out there as more appropriate for the 968, by adding 25hp (this is likely the upper end of my expectations, but we'll use it for the giggle factor), you end up with a staggering 334hp at the flywheel. that's over 340 if you use the 17% somebody else uses, and even higher if you use the SAE correction factor as well.



if this all works out like i think it will, you will get all that without changing injectors, no fancy complicated ignition systems, race fuel, or any of that nonsense. no loss of features. no rod stress. it should have the same drivability as the standard kit too.



on top of that, it should all be able to be installed in a little over an hour.



all that for a few hundred bucks over the standard kit.



i'm going to try to test on a mustang and a dynojet, just to satisfy everybody and remove the "dyno debate".



i can't wait to see this come together.
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#29

VERY MUCH INTERSTED AS I AM GETTING THE BATCH 3
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#30

the minute i have some initial results, i'll post them. i expect to see my car back right around the end of next week. then i have to spend a couple of days putting it back together. then i can start working out the details of the upgrade kit. it should only take me a couple of weeks to get it together. once it is done, and i have some initial results, then i will bring another car here and test on that. i want the results to be truly representative of what you will get, and not some extrapolated concoction.



i'll be doing the initial work of setting up the dyno testing in the next couple of days. i want the tests to be incontrovertible. there won't be any questions like "what correction factor did you use? what were the intake temps? yada yada. all of that will be in the release info. there won't be any of the "fiddling" with the numbers that we see all too often



still targeting under $700 for the upgrade.
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#31

COME ONNN , give us a hint .



is it made out of metal ???



Weight ???



Dimensions ???



made out of data ????



I Know it""s a rocket , one of those army things a JATOBOTLE .



Maybe a elastic band ???



NNooo one of those model airplane jet engines would do it ???



Guess we have to wait a bit more <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/whine.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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#32

lol - sorry - i'm not taking chances this time on somebody copying a critical component of a design and claiming it's their own. been there done that. i'm getting a patent for this one so i can own their house if they try it again.
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#33

i think i can see the light at the end of the tunnel. i should have my car back the end of next week, and finally able to start in on the "Stage 2" kit. all of the vendors are revved up and ready. i just need to have the car for a few days to work out the details and get stuff going. i'm very excited about this.
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#34

Me too. I love my car but I've got the new car bug. Kicking some ass and taking some names should cure me.
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#35

Are we guessing? could this be an air to air intercooler?
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#36

Could it be the direct hair spray injection I saw on a Boxster once...?
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#37

Peeing tube for "water" injection! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/clap.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



(More sensible, using the windshield washer fluid also for water injection.)
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#38

Methanol!!!!
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#39

A 1.21 gigawatt flux capacitor?
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#40

So what are the numbers that the car oems quote? I presume at the crank as they are bigger.



Let me see, a new boxster S makes 315/266 from a 3.4 L 6. 330 sounds pretty sweet. Any change to the torque?
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