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968 with cooling problem
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A fellow 968er is having cooling issues with his 968. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Jeff

I bought my 968 in 2000 then had to replace the thermostat because the car was indicating it was overheating when it wasn’t. This spring, the cooling fan kept running (all night) after turning off the car and it was killing the battery. Again, replaced the thermostat. This week the car again indicated overheating and actually cut off I guess automatically when the gauge went into the red. The car wasn’t actually overheated. Had towed to the mechanic and he is again replacing the thermostat.

Tuesday evening, I don’t think the fan came on after I turned the car off after driving home in rush hour traffic like it usually does when the engine is hot after driving. Yesterday morning, on a cold engine start the car did not want to turn over like it had a weak battery. The battery and alternator are new and mechanic has confirmed nothing is wrong with either. Fifteen minutes and four miles later, while driving to work in slow city traffic once the engine heated up the temp gauge continued slightly into the red. The car has always run a little hot but in the past when it would get to the bottom of the red line I presume the fan kicks in and the engine temp gauge moves back down between the hashes. Yesterday, it went just slightly into the red, wiggled a round a little, then the “!” light came on and the engine cut off. I didn’t fool around, I just had it towed to a mechanic. I didn’t try to re-start it but when I turned the key to battery the “!” was still on about 5 minutes after the engine cut off. After towing, the mechanic told me that the car will cut off automatically if the gauge indicates an overheating. Not sure if that’s true of the 968 or not. When the mechanic started it at the shop (engine had been idle for 2 hours) the “!” light was not on anymore but the engine was also now cool. So far, he has replaced the thermostat and is looking for other electrical issues.

Several months ago a mechanic had replaced the battery and a thermostat or relay (or both, not sure) when the fan was staying on after the car was off and engine had cooled. That problem was obviously killing the battery but I’m wondering if this problem isn’t some related electrical issue. I think this may be my third thermostat and second in several months so I suspect the problem may be originating somewhere else. Thanks again for any ideas or help.
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need to verify the fans - that switch could be the culprit - it sounds like the low speed was not working, and now the high speed may have died

need to verify the water pump too - they have been known to spin the impeller and have no flow

i presume he has done all the normal things like bleeding the system, though that would not be possible if the pump wasn't working
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Also verify the connections to the fan resistor pucks next to the battery on the firewall. They corrode and cause issues with fan operation.
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These are exactly the symptoms I experienced when my Water Pump failed. I was surprised that there was no gush of water, etc.


Pete tried all the usual items (Switches, fans, hoses, thermostats) before pulling the water pump 2 days before the celebration in Newtown. As Flash said above, the impeller broke and provided no flow.

That was also when we boiled a bunch of thermostats on the stove and determined an almost 20 degree range variation in when they opened.

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Jay

P.S. Tell your friend to join Forums...then (s)he could ask directly.
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I've worked through similar issues.

One of the fans was not turning off would run down the battery. Switch was replaced.

Overheating was a combination of (1) a thermostat that turned on 10 Degrees C. too high. Replaced, and confirmed the setting by testing on the stove. (2) Low temperature fan switch was turning on too late. Replaced the switch. (3) Slight coolant hose leak, fixed. (4) Coolant/oil intercooler was leaking slightly. Gaskets replaced.

All of these made a big difference. Gauge now runs steady (mostly) at 8:30.

Adding Water Wetter made a significant difference too.
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<!--quoteo(post=75669:date=Jul 16 2009, 11:44 AM:name=jeff968)-->QUOTE (jeff968 @ Jul 16 2009, 11:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->A fellow 968er is having cooling issues with his 968. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Jeff

I bought my 968 in 2000 then had to replace the thermostat because the car was indicating it was overheating when it wasn’t. This spring, the cooling fan kept running (all night) after turning off the car and it was killing the battery. Again, replaced the thermostat. This week the car again indicated overheating and actually cut off I guess automatically when the gauge went into the red. The car wasn’t actually overheated. Had towed to the mechanic and he is again replacing the thermostat.

Tuesday evening, I don’t think the fan came on after I turned the car off after driving home in rush hour traffic like it usually does when the engine is hot after driving. Yesterday morning, on a cold engine start the car did not want to turn over like it had a weak battery. The battery and alternator are new and mechanic has confirmed nothing is wrong with either. Fifteen minutes and four miles later, while driving to work in slow city traffic once the engine heated up the temp gauge continued slightly into the red. The car has always run a little hot but in the past when it would get to the bottom of the red line I presume the fan kicks in and the engine temp gauge moves back down between the hashes. Yesterday, it went just slightly into the red, wiggled a round a little, then the “!” light came on and the engine cut off. I didn’t fool around, I just had it towed to a mechanic. I didn’t try to re-start it but when I turned the key to battery the “!” was still on about 5 minutes after the engine cut off. After towing, the mechanic told me that the car will cut off automatically if the gauge indicates an overheating. Not sure if that’s true of the 968 or not. When the mechanic started it at the shop (engine had been idle for 2 hours) the “!” light was not on anymore but the engine was also now cool. So far, he has replaced the thermostat and is looking for other electrical issues.

Several months ago a mechanic had replaced the battery and a thermostat or relay (or both, not sure) when the fan was staying on after the car was off and engine had cooled. That problem was obviously killing the battery but I’m wondering if this problem isn’t some related electrical issue. I think this may be my third thermostat and second in several months so I suspect the problem may be originating somewhere else. Thanks again for any ideas or help.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I had the same issue when I first got my 968. Turned out to be the thermo switch that is mounted on the interior drivers side of the rad.
Easy fix and not expensive. Until you get it fixed, just pull the rad fan relay from the engine fuse box when you get home.
Brian
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Thanks for all the input everyone!!!

And Jay, I inform and invite every 968 register member to join forums, the only 100% dedicated site to 968s!!!
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