[flash]

don't forget that without the weight, the cab is about 100 lbs light in the rear, compared to the normal distribution of the hardtop which is 66lbs heavy in the rear - when you remove it, the car will be even more tail light - this takes some getting used to, but is very manageable



it is removed by lossening the nuts on each end, grabbing hold, bracing yourself well, and lifting it out - it weighs over 40 lbs, so be careful



you can expect a bit more power oversteer, a bit more scuttle shake, better accelleration, and a lot more fun



mine has been out for 2 yrs now, and over 20k miles, and no signs of any problems (unless you count the flack from a couple of "nervous" other owners)

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[LivingDust]

Hey Flash, (aka my 968 super hero) The other reason I want to know what your sub-woofer box looks like is that I bet it will fit well with the roll-bar! Does your subwoofer fit into the area where we now have compartments instead of rear seats?



I have never had a boot for my top before, but now that I have a brand new top, I am going to get one and use it. Since I have never had one, I don't know how it fits and whether my old subwoofer enclosure would interfere with the boot cover.



It is taking forever to get my springs, so I still have time if you get the drawings done. And I would be willing to pay for your design as well...



Keep this up guys. I have never been more excited about owning 968's since finding this discussion forum.



Scott

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[flash]

my design will actually utilize the stock storage boxes as a platform, so therefore it will not in any way interfere with the boot cover or the roll bar



the roll bar comes out on thursday, which gives me the opportunity to play withthe sub - i will be about a week working it out - it has to be done by then though because the finsihed product of the roll bar will be ready about that time and they have to go in together

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[odb812]

i completely removed the shelf/cubby unit from my car and built in a box with four separate enclosures. two are behind each seat housing a 10" subwoofer in each facing the back of the seat. the other two are above the hump in the middle and have a 6 1/2" woofer in each with the component tweeter mounted in the round holes behind the stock speaker locations. i can post some pictures when i move the car here to my new place.

i'd advise staying away from putting any speakers in the trunk of a cab. with the seatback-things up there is no way for that sound to get to the passengers, especially with all the noise when the top is down.



-todd

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[Brian]

todd - you have done what i've been thinking of doing. i'd love to see some pictures. i tried to fit a sub into the existing storage cubby but it sounded terrible. how did you get your box to seal up? did you build it out of wood/plastic? same mounting spots as the cubby?

i'm very interested in what you did because i'd like to do the same thing.

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[flash]

after i yank the roll bar out monday, i can FINALLY get back to the sub design - i'm confident i can get it built into the storage box and get it right, but it will be an interesting project - the key is going to be in the placement, size and length of the ports

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[LivingDust]

I don't have any pictures yet, but I went ahead and removed the storage cubby and had an enclosure built there to house two 8" Kickers. I think it looks great, and it sounds awesome. I have doing the final adjustments to my torsion bars, and spring rates and then I will be able to take some pictures.



I wanted to wait until the I could put the roll bar in and make sure the enclosure would not interfere without he roll bar. But the insurance company was giving me a time limit to finish the job. But we did something clever with the enclosure that I thin will work out. We left what I think is plenty of space for the roll bar and we made a cover over the enclosure that mimics the old cubby shelf. This shelf can easily be cut later to make a nice seal around the roll bar, and since it is not part of the real enclosure it won't effect the sound at all.



Anyway, I will take some pics and give a full list if what all I have in there next week.



Scott

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[Brian]

scott and todd -

i think the problems i was having with my futile attempt with creating a sub box out of the existing cubby were:

the existing box is built out of very light weight plywood and doesn't resist vibration well

the front doors of the cubby didn't seal well

and

the seal between the cubby box and the seat wells wasn't very tight.



just my thoughts. my curiosity is how you overcame these three obstacles. sounds like you made new boxes to avoid the first problem, but the other two are what i'm most intrigued by.

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[odb812]

brian, i didn't do the work on mine myself, but i can tell you how it was done. the two boxes for the 10" subs were made individually without faces using 1/2" mdf and sealed just like you are making a regular sub box. the 6 1/2" speakers were done the same way. then they used one large piece of mdf that goes all the way across where the face of the cubbie doors used to be. this piece is used as the faces for all of the boxes, with holes cut out for the drivers. the guy made a top piece that goes back to the seatback-type things and two pices that go down the sides. it's hard to explain, but pictures would really bring some clairity to it. i will definitely be going to see the car by the middle of july, so i will post some pictures by then.

-todd

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[968 Cab]

8" Bazooka Tube fits PERFECTLY in the Spare Wheel Well - I just made a few simple hooks and used a bungee cord to hold the tube in place. The PO had a FG wheel well box and a 10" kicker sub installed - problem was the installer decided to make it a nice downfiring sub and CUT A 10" HOLE in the carpet!!! Ruined the carpet and ate up all the room in the trunk!



I used the ADS 5 ch amp to drive the 8" Bazooka and it actually sounds MUCH better than the 10" kicker. Smooth deep bass, not thumping either. All the components up front were changed to MB Quart separates with crossovers, so the overall speaker setup is pretty nice.



Here's a pic of the 8"B in the wheel well and completely hidden with the now new carpet (thanks to Sunset Porsche for sourcing a new OEM carpet from Germany!)

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[flash]

ya know, i may just stick mine in there to see what it sounds like

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[memphoman]

I have the basic 6" bazooka sitting on the shelf behind me. Had it in the floor behind me, but decided I needed the extra leg room. I'm very happy with it, but I would get the 8" if I did it all over again. I plan on converting the storage compartment behind me into something more permanent, but don't have a gameplan yet, but there are those out there that do, so I wait to see what happens with that. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/mellow.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[Brian]

thanks for the description, todd. i am excited to see your pictures. i'll bet it's going to sound fantastic!

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[flash]

i should be able to get started on the new sub design tomorrow



finally

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[odb812]

okay, i've got some pictures of it now. sorry i'm a little lazy on compressing and uploading them, so i'm just going to give you a link to my filebox so you can see the full sized versions.



http://filebox.vt.edu/users/mwinstan/



the speakers are the pictures ending in 28x. the covering is temporary as is the position of the amp. one of these days, when i catch up on taking the parts off the shelf in my garage and on the car, i'm going to recover the box, probably with vinyl, and move the amp to the trunk.

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[LivingDust]

The pictures 28x seem to have a problem. I can look at the pictures 14x and 15x, but the 28x pics never load. Maybe a permission problem?



Scott

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[flash]

saw the pics - nope - won't fit with the roll bar - you box is too wide - the rearward facing legs land on the little "shelf" on the sides, all the way at the back

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[Brian]

todd - that's awesome. just what i was thinking of doing. did you make the box yourself?

i'm not a total audiophile, just a wanna be... what's the purpose of having two different size woofers back there? or are the smaller speakers full range?



are the back and bottom sides sealed with the box, or is it just a two sided frame that mounts over the seats like the original cubby? i'm curious how the system would seal up around the edges.

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[odb812]

brian, i didn't build it myself. the boxes for the 10" subs were built just like you were building two separate sealed boxes to set on the floor in your trunk. they were sealed in i believe .75 sq.ft. boxes. then smaller boxes for the 6.5" speakers were made the same way. then they built the face, top shelf, and brackets to fit in the area they needed to go in. so you don't have to worry about sealing odd angles.

i gave up on the factory 4x6 location for the stock speakers, so the 6.5" speakers in the back are replacing them as the rear channel for the stereo, so they are full range. they are a component set and i think you can see the tweeters on the sides in some of the pictures.



livingdust, i don't know what could be wrong, but i've got the pictures posted below.

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[Brian]

okay, that makes sense. create a frame and then incorporate the sealed box into the frame. much simpler construction. i'm a pretty smart guy, but navigating all those curves from the seat wells was giving me a headache.



i'll bet that box sounds awesome! are your tweeters mounted on the side panels?



sorry to keep bugging you, but did they use the factory mounting brackets that were already there?

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