[rhudeboye]

A few good points to discuss on this car. 1, would be the 993 headlight conversion. Noticed it as soon as I opened the page. -30 lbs and the custom fit isn't bad. But I wouldn't call it perfect.



Then theres the LS1. Hard to imagine a full running conversion going for so little. BIN Price is under 20K



If this was in my next of the woods I'd be going for a test drive this Saturday.



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995-Porsch...tem190211818595

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[Cloud9...68]

It looks like a nice car at a very reasonable price. Should be a blast to drive with that much power.



As far as the headlights, though, as much as I love the look of the 993 lights, I agree with Flash that it looks funny the way they stick up from the fenders. I guess to make a 993 headlight conversion look good on a 968, you have to modify the fenders, which of course is a lot of very pricey custom work.

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[flash]

one must ask the question, "if this was such a great idea, why is the car for sale so cheap?" - given that i t probably cost as much to set up as the car is for sale.....



hmmmmmm



maybe a problem somewhere? - gee - i wonder if it's another V8 conversion that turned out to be fun for 10 minutes and a turd for 10 years?

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[SILVY968]

ouch!

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[Cloud9...68]

[quote name='flash' post='50413' date='Apr 4 2008, 10:26 PM']one must ask the question, "if this was such a great idea, why is the car for sale so cheap?" - given that i t probably cost as much to set up as the car is for sale.....



hmmmmmm



maybe a problem somewhere? - gee - i wonder if it's another V8 conversion that turned out to be fun for 10 minutes and a turd for 10 years?[/quote]

Yes, you have a good point. Plus the body does look kind of rough.

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[jeff968]

But does a V8 conversion really make any since for a 968? I guess the most popular V8 conversion is the 80-90s jaguars. I've seen many of them and I think the tranny is already a GM piece. But another reason for it is the nightmare of having one of those Jag V12s. I hear they are a nightmare to own and maintain, hense the many conversions. But why a 968. Wouldn't you say the 3.0 is a great powerplant? So why pull it?

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[SILVY968]

horse power perhaps?

I would rather have the continuity of a Porsche engine in my 968. As a daily driver the power, with some small mods, is enough for me. Speeding in a stock 968 is no problem, don't ask me how I know.

Having had Detroit, high horsepower cars in my past, I can tell you that an overpowered car delivers great burnouts but no increase in comfort, reliability or cornering. When I was younger going fast in a straight line was cool, now I love the corners as well; my power plant delivers the sound and feel that still puts a smile on my face while pulling through the gears with the top down on a twisty back road.



You race guys can go for it, but for me I'll keep my 3.0 engine.

Brian

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[rxter]

Wouldn't the v8 add weight to the package? I've often though about throwing how sweet my RX8 would be with the low end grunt of a blown V6. But what makes that car, and the 968, so fun to drive is the low weight and perfect balance that lets you throw it around in the twisties. I'd rather lose someone on the take off and catch them in the turns anyway - finesse over raw power any day. Nothing puts a smile on my face more than seeing a Mustang or any other muscle car blow off the line at the light and then start to push into the turn, where upon I zip by on the inside (of course while strictly obeying all traffic laws <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />.



Agree about the lights - the bulge looks wrong.



And what would the increase in torque and hp do to the tranny, which is already a bit touchy?

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[Anchorman]

Personally, relative to the existing popups, I think I could live with the 993 conversion. If this was a cab, I'd take a look at it. While I've said that, if I ever needed an engine, this is the route I would go, it's not likely, as my engine now has been refreshed on top and bottom. So, as long as I don't do something to it (like forgetting to shift at the right time when I'm at Watkins Glen in mid-May), I'm with Brian - my current setup provides all that I need.

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[Cloud9...68]

I agree that the stock engine is they way to go. And with the power improvements already delivered by RS Barn's exhaust and chips, along with the intake mod, and with all the work going on behind the scenes on things like ITBs and superchargers, the benefits of an engine swap grow ever more dubious. This is really a great engine, plus it's quite reliable and very durable, so I'm sticking with it, and hoping to make it more fun as time goes on.



That having been said, the owner of the V8 conversion on eBay did do some thoughtful things, like the fixed headlights and Odyssey battery to offset some of the additional weight from the V8 at the front end. I did find it amusing that in an otherwise well-written ad, he refers to the "cast iron four" in the stock 968...

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[PorscheDude]

The weight difference between the two engines is only like 40lbs. Not a big deal.

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[flash]

this one makes me a little crazy - it's a little deceiving - the difference is more than that - ours is 378 complete and dry and the all aluminum 6 liter is 390 dry and bare - i found a number of sources that list it higher - on top of that, the other things required are heavier too (radiator, etc) - the net increase looks to be about 100lbs - not the end of the world, but a significant shift in front/rear bias, and spring rate increase - still waiting on somebody publishing corner weights one of these cars, both with and without the V8 to give more accurate comparison numbers

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[rhudeboye]

I have the Excellence article the Ebay ad referenced. Disappointingly, it also failed to list performance numbers! It praised the car, the idea, the install and even commented on why it made sense. Yet it left us with little by way of the facts.



I know we have at least one V8 on this forum. Perhaps he can chime in w/ his thoughts.

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[flash]

i am surprised at how few real facts we get from those who have done this - one would think that this would be the first thing discussed "my car now does 0-60 in blah" and things like that - with so many people comparing small things like chips and exhausts, ad nauseam, something this huge seems like a no brainer for somebody to brag about



but, then again, conversions are almost never without compromise and frequently prone to problems, so perhaps we just haven't run across the right one yet, and have only heard from the rubber band and bubble gum ones - i don't know, but it sure seems odd



i'd love to drive one though

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[flash]

update - the car belongs to badberry68 (a member here) - i am curious as to why he is selling it - he has been a staunch proponent of the conversion - with that much wrapped up into the process, it strikes me as odd to be selling it

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[rhudeboye]

[quote name='flash' post='50526' date='Apr 7 2008, 08:16 AM']update - the car belongs to badberry68 (a member here) - i am curious as to why he is selling it - he has been a staunch proponent of the conversion - with that much wrapped up into the process, it strikes me as odd to be selling it[/quote]



Yes, I've read many of his posts and he seemed to love the conversion. He was actually who I was referring to when I said we have at least one LS1 owner here.



Hope the sale goes well. The new owner will probably be a future member here.

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[spectre996]

Or a current one! I would be interested if I had the funds. Then again, it's hard to get mine back from my mom when she borrows it. Maybe I'll sell it to her and take a look at badberry's.

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[xrad]

not sold @ 8100$..the people speak....

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[flash]

for the record, i know nothing about the car or its conversion - it just strikes me odd to spend that much and then let it go, unless you didn't like it



but, he may be after a modena 360 or something, in which case i would do the same thing

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[Cloud9...68]

[quote name='flash' post='50526' date='Apr 7 2008, 10:16 AM']update - the car belongs to badberry68 (a member here) - i am curious as to why he is selling it - he has been a staunch proponent of the conversion - with that much wrapped up into the process, it strikes me as odd to be selling it[/quote]

Are you sure? I thought it may have been Badberry's, but the intakes are different in the pcitures. Badberry's has dual cones, whereas the one on eBay has a single one. Of course, he may well have modified it relative to when the eBay photos were taken. I agree, it is strange that's he's selling it.



Edit: Just looked on the thread for the fixed headlight conversion, and sure enough, the eBay car is Badberry's.

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