[benspeeder]

So I parked my race car down at RS Barn to have them go over it and get it ready for next season. A gentleman with his street 968 was hanging out waiting for Pete. I was in a hurry to get back home for soccer dad duty but I had to stop and admire this fellows car - absolutely immaculate.



Then I looked at my car. Still dirty from the track, both doors and fenders covered with little race dings and dents, body cladding a little loose, some sandblasting on the rockers and cladding....I think Pete said it looked like a war horse but it's starting to look like a beater! This car needs a refresh! It's still got the factory paint on it.



Lacking any creative skill I'm asking for suggestions on a paint and decal scheme. The car is black and I'd prefer to stay with the stock color but heck - hit me with some ideas folks! I could use some good creative ideas - post up some pics that you think would be a cool design <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[pmason]

I've been thinking along the same lines, as my car is also black and seems kind of boring with nothing more than just the numbers.

I was looking at some of the Cayman Interstate Series cars, they duplicated many of the legacy liveries.

http://www.napletonmotorsports.com/The-Caymans.html

While pretty cool, a little more than what I'm thinking.

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[benspeeder]

PMason - way to go man! With one post you've given me more ideas to ponder and exactly what I'm looking for. Sort of a factory livey vibe.



Thanks!

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[pmason]

I was looking for something that could be made out of vinyl, I don't want to paint the car. Maybe one of the hippy liveries could be made out of large vinyl sections.

You might also want to check out http://twojokersgraphics.com/ a lot of people over on Rennlist has good things to say about him, I have emailed him on few things. He is also out in your neck of the woods, NJ.

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[MC968CS]

Wow I really like the idea of a 968 mocked up in the white backgound Martini livery....nearly did it last year!!!!! Go for it!!!

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[flash]

i think i would determine what the color scheme was based on those who were paying for the ad space

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[benspeeder]

I can run some decals for this awesome supercharger product I heard about!!!!!

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[flash]

lol - we don't have the budget to sponsor a car, and frankly i never thought about decals, but i suppose i could work on that

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[steve g]

For a black car take a look at the Martini graphics that on this car.



http://www.demanmotorsport.com/sales/listing.php?id=72



I have a white 968 and I am considering the Martini graphics from this source.



http://www.porschedecalshop.com/



The Hippie graphics in blue/green would be my first choice but I have not found a source but if you like maybe we can find a source that would do 2 sets.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2006FO...he917L.jpg

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[flash]

i don't understand the whole "martini" thing - i think i'd rather just drink straight vodka



seriously though - unless you garner them as a sponsor, why would anybody put graphics on a car for a company that does not sponsor the car? isn't that the epitome of "wannabe"?



that's ad space, and unless i really wanted to specifically advertise for that company for free for some reason, they had better be paying me for the space



i do get it if you are going to build a complete and accurate replica of an historic race car, though that would put probably you in vintage class, as it would not likely be competitive in current classes



to each his own though i suppose

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[benspeeder]

I suppose it's a wannabe thing - make the car look like a factory Porsche. The look wouldn't put you in historic or vintage - that's age and motor.



Regarding sponsors in amature racing - unless you're the next Randy Pobst or Boris Said the aggravation of rustling up $2500 from a bunch of locals isn't worth it. My line, "hey, your local store will make ad impressions on tens of people at our race." <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



Definitely easier ways to rustle up real money for racing than looking for sponsors. But I do run decals for products I like - especially Martini vermouth for a wicked Manhattan. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/wink.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[benspeeder]

Steve G - luv that Martini package on the black 911 - that might be the winner. Like it the most so far.



On the white 968 - ebay vendor - that's who I bought my first Martini decal kit. It was brutal to install - each little blue line is an individual decal. No Manhattans during the install or it will come out cockeyed like my car! But the price was excellent - less than $200 for the kit.



Thanks!

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[94SilverCab]

Is there a Glenlivit decal package? I'd put that on my Volvo...LOL

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[flash]

hmmm - i guess i just don't get that - i think i've spent too many years dealing with sponsors - giving away free advertising is against my religion



in vintage racing, decal layouts of historic cars is common - the gulf 917 comes to mind as one that was restored to its racing day condition - now that i understand



all that being said, it isn't that hard to get sponsors, if you know how to go about it

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[pmason]

Flash, maybe that is a whole new thread, how to get sponsors even when you are just in club racing.



I'm just getting into the club racing next year and I'm just doing it for fun. Years ago and when I didn't have so many seconds around my wait I race karts, again just for the fun of it. But I'm always open if someone wants to pay for my tire bill, that is what’s going to hurt the most :-)



Could be wrong but even then I would think most of them would be small and not drive a whole theme of a car. There will be more potential in say SCCA and maybe NASA than in say PCA, just a broader audience.



That said, I may just end up with a simple strip idea to keep it simple.

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[flash]

it's not all that complex - you just have to make it make sense to the sponsor - figure out what they want in exposure, and how you can provide that to them - sometimes it requires you making an appearance at a store with the car - sometimes it's photo ops - sometimes it's meet and greets with known drivers - sometimes its an article in the local paper - it varies from sponsor to sponsor



basically you have to sell yourself - you have to show them why you are a good investment



but i guarantee that nobody wants to sponsor a losing car or one that doesn't look good and run well, so that is first on the list



also, you won't have a lot of luck getting paying sponsors if it isn't a dedicated race car, though you might get on some free lists if you are winning - remember that if you want somebody to take you seriously, you have to be serious yourself

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[pmason]

Hey, is there and top/side/front/back drawings of the 968? Looked in the lib here didn't find anything, also searched google images no luck.

Here is an example of what I'm talking about, thinking I could print a few out and mock up some ideas.

Never mind, problem between the chair and keyboard.

If anyone is interested:

http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http:...s%3Disch:1

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[benspeeder]

LOL - Flash, have you spent any serious time club racing for championships? After I won a few and thought I was hot stuff I made some efforts to obtain sponsorsip, worked with an agency and put a professional level ad package together. There's one problem, club racing is a bad sponsorship investment! I always tell folks you are better off putting the time into making money than chasing people encouraging them to make a poor investment.



The better play besides doing work to pay for racing is to get your club to partner with companies who can offer contingency awards for the top three spots. Tire companies and brake pad companies often do this but many other firms who sell racing or performance products will award product to the top three finishers. That makes it a little more affordable and ya feel great going out on sticker tires you didn't pay for :-)



Hoosier is the best - they always have some kind of contingency program with SCCA.

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[benspeeder]

Pmason - like that idea. I'm going to use the pics above to draw some designs to help figure out the paint scheme.

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[flash]

lol - yeah - it can be a pain



yes, did a bunch of racing many years ago - was even paid to drive at one point - never won any championships though



while it's harder to get paying sponsors, it's fairly easy to get on free lists - i'm still doing that now, and i'm not even racing anymore - you just have to figure out what they want and what you can give them - it's all about being a salesman - not everybody can do that though



also, think outside the box - connect to companies that would otherwise not immediately make the connection to racing - you have more to offer than space on the car too, if you're creative enough to think of things



that being said, it is labor intensive, and certainly if you count up the hours, a minimum wage job probably pays more

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