[Graham]

Hi all,



Maybe this should go in racing but heh...



Went to Croft circuit (UK NE) this weekend to check out the competition in the PCSC class 2 for next year.....basically 3.2 carreras and 944 turbos.



Question.



How does a 968 bare shell weight compare to a 944 and 951 bare shell weight.



There was a guy running a 944 with a SFR supercharged 968 engine in class 1 with close on 400 bhp (remapped by Colin Belton) and at 1040 kilos!!!!!!!!!!!



<img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/ohmy.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/ohmy.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/ohmy.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/ohmy.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/ohmy.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



Graham

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[Duckman]

I think you might call his car modified.

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[Jason Judd]

Please, somebody tell me how many pounds that is!



Sounds incredibly light!



Jason

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[Greimann]

2292.8 pounds

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[Jason Judd]

That's a lot of work to get down to that weight...Sheesh.



Jason

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[flash]

that just gets me all kinds of excited

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[Duckman]

Here's a handy-dandy little tool. Go forth and prosper. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



http://www.worldwidemetric.com/metcal.htm

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[RPM]

You Brits are out of control!



You use:

= Miles for distance

= Kilograms for weight

= and something called "Imperial gallons" for volume (1.201 US gallons for those of you playing at home)



Crazy!

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[Duckman]

What's the big deal?



So, their gallon is equal to five quarts instead of four. No problem.



Their gallon is 20% more petrol but it costs about 300% as much. Now THAT'S a problem. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/blink.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[josephsc]

I want to see that car someday -- Paul's car has always been a inspiration for me. Now if the AC system would finally crap out on me, I may just have to go the lightweight with SC route...

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[Graham]

Its a bit of a monster indeedy



It was stripped bear as well



and yes we are crazy....paying £1 per litre nearly



I don't think we can work out wether we want to go imperial or metric still.



I still sometimes use inches in construction



Graham

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[sparky]

OK but seriously does anyone know the weight of the bare "white painted" shell ? (kgs or lbs) Also each of the bare body shel panels? I've started building up a spreadsheet of the weights of all the components of a 968. e.g. engine is 172kg (=379lb)



Why would I bother? With this info I can target most cost effective diet ....

(if one already exists please tell me where!)



another e.g. - unsprung weight (four wheels & tyres & brakes & springs & arms etc) weighs about as much the engine again!

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[flash]

as somebody who has spent an insane amount of time looking at where to shave weight off a street car, i can tell you the chassis is heavy, so you're in for an uphill battle



the engine, tube, and tranny, et all are about 750# hood is 39# and the fenders are about 18# each - the doors are about 65#each (fully loaded) and the hatch is close - tires and wheels are 200# and the suspension is about the same - that leaves the windshield and interior, which come to about 250# - about 100# of loose crap, and, if i didn't miss anything, quick math says the chassis then weighs about 1400#

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[Duckman]

Flash, you forgot the sun roof. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/tongue.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[968evo]

1040kg!!!!! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/ohmy.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> That is amazing!



/Björn

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[flash]

at 1040, he would have had to remove a lot of inner structure sheetmetal - as a unibody car, this would mean the need for additional bracing to make up for that - that's a lot of engineering - love to see it though



duckman - yeah, counted it as a roof - a few pounds more than just the sheet metal for sure - hard to remember that some people have a roof - can't imagine why they would though - hehehe

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[Graham]

Guys it was an oval dash 944 to start with I think



Graham

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