[pguria]

Anyone here in the Bay Area know who repairs our stock audio units? CD player no longer functions, and I'd like to keep the interior as stock as possible.

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[flash]

due to the now inexpensive nature of new units, car stereo repair has become all but a thing of the past - you'll have to hunt for that one, and will likely be sending it a long distance - good luck

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[PorscheDude]

Just find a good used unit.

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[EEZATOY]

You might try SW stereo - www.swstereo.com

Sam

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[tom968]

I fixed mine here in Los Angeles recently, and it
cost $200. In a large city you should be able to
find someone. Also, it may not be stock anyway
as most 968's had cassette players.

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[Darryl]

I think there are a few places the advertise in Panorama that offer OEM (Becker) radio repairs...the previous posters make good points, but if your goal is keeping things bone stock, then repair or an identical used one will be the way to go. Don't forget to get the code if you buy a used one...otherwise, it will be useless.

- Darryl

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[flash]

i fully realize that we are all free to do what we want, for our own reasons, but somebody needs to explain this one to me

i don't get the logic of deliberately wanting to spend money to fix a unit that has horrible sound characteristics, and absolutely no value as a collectable item - if it raised the value of the car, i might get it - it doesn't - if it sounded great, i might get it - it doesn't

why would you want to drive a car with a stereo that sounded that bad and had no features? i'd rather turn it off or go without - those things are good only as a door stop - they don't even look cool - they are definitely the weak link in the system - i don't see the logic in throwing good money after bad, especially when better sounding stuff with a ton more features is out there for the same money

i think we all really need to face the reality that these cars will never in our lifetime appreciate in value, and never become collector's items, regardless of how few miles they have or how original they are - they just never had the status to begin with that would ever have put them in a position to do that - they weren't groundbreaking, scintillating, original, or iconic - sure, we love them, but they were the red-headed stepchildren, and always will be - in fact, at this point, they are going down in value due to aged out components - i think we need to maximize them and enjoy them now

if you want something collectable, buy a tucker

or am i way off base and totally missing some value to the oem units?

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[tom968]

Agreed.

Unless you want to show the car, and keep everything stock.

I repaired mine, but it wasn't an oem unit. I thought it
would be a simple repair, but it was a worst case scenario.
I should have just bought a new unit.

I once spent $1200 on a car stereo system that was worth
about $1200. I was in college at the time, working part-time,
and didn't even have the money. Now that was dumb.

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[jrallen01]

<!--quoteo(post=79583:date=Sep 5 2009, 11:46 PM:name=pguria)-->QUOTE (pguria @ Sep 5 2009, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Anyone here in the Bay Area know who repairs our stock audio units? CD player no longer functions, and I'd like to keep the interior as stock as possible.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I have a unit radio and CD player with code that I pulled out of a '94 cab. Unfortunately, 1 button on the radio is cracked. The CD unit did work when it was pulled. Make me a cheap cheap offer +shipping. Been in the basement for a year. AS IS.

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[biotechee]

The point is, some people want to keep their cars original - regardless of whether or not the originality in question is better/worse/different/useful when compared to what is available nowadays. This is especially relevant for those individuals who show their cars. If your car came with gloves, it had better have them or you lose points. Same with the stereo, etc. When you get into the concours level stuff, I would imagine something as simple as the braided clutch line could be the difference between winning and losing. And we all pretty much agree having the braided clutch line is a very good thing...

While Bob's car is one of cleanest and arguably most beautiful 968 cabs on the face of the earth, it wouldn't stand a chance at a true concours event. Bob wants it that way. Others, on the other hand, want originality. To each their own.

And I dare say, in general, if you were to take Bob's car for example and compare to a completely stock car with the same mileage and in the same mechanical and cosmetic condition, the stock car would be worth more to more people on average. That is not to say that someone wouldn't pay whatever Bob's price would be if he were to sell, but I think the market would be larger and more interested in an original, stock car in top condition. That's just the way it is. And, refresh my memory- isn't that what you wanted, Bob (it has been a long time...), a stock car in great condition versus a non-original car in great condition?

For me, originality doesn't hold too much weight. I want the car to perform well, be mechanically sound, and cosmetically beautiful in my eyes. I agree the original stereo is crap. I would love to replace it with a Becker Grand Prix or Indianapolis for that stock look, but money is an issue right now, so I will most likely go with a Pioneer DEH-P410UB/P4100UB. While not stock in appearance, it does what I want it to do, and it looks acceptable in my eyes. I do prefer to use Porsche parts for cosmetic things because I think the car looks great in general. But I am adding the Strosek front splitter instead of the Porsche TRS splitter because the Strosek looks better, IMHO.

Damn I just tired myself out.

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[flash]

actually, i did concourse the car for a while and i won two out of three and took second on the third, but i get your point - i stopped entering because i fail to comprehend the idea of a concourse where originality is a basis for judging - when i look at a car, i look at how it is prepared, how well thought out things are, and whether the preparer did a good job in design - not whether or not the gloves are original, or if there is dust under the gas flap - otherwise it's just about the ability of a guy to wash a car - who cares about that? i pay somebody to do that - lol - maybe he should show the car - i never ran into this mentality until i started seeing PCA events though - 30 years of showing cars, and that was the first time that originality even entered into the equation - that's the prevailing attitude with many porsche guys though, and why i don't like porsches in general - it's all show and no go - why the attitude? it's only a gussied up VW, not a ferrari

as for what i was looking for, no, both times i was just looking for an extremely low mileage car - i didn't want any half baked mods, but didn't really care about well done ones, as long as they were reversible - the colors and 17s were a big deal though

i am obviously function over form - some people would rather be form over function - i know people who will spend $20000 on a watch without blinking, but have a bathroom that doesn't work - i will never understand it, but it is a reality

still, i think a simple harness plug serves well - run the cool deck unless you are showing the car, and then stick in the stock one (working or not since they never turn it on)

or you could compete it in a non-pca event where that stuff doesn't matter

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[biotechee]

I hear you. I can understand the originality/concours thing in general, but have no desire to subscribe to it to such an extent. Heck- I have a 993 steering wheel, a 996 shift knob, and a 996 ebrake handle. Not to mention the airbox mod and the dummy dash rocker switch for my garage door opener - methinks I won't ever win a concours event!

I still think you should at least one creast somewhere in the car Bob!!! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img]


BTW- Crutchfield sells a wiring harness adapter kit (don't have the part number handy) that works with the non-M490 optioned 968 from what I can tell. I have the adapter kit and after I unload the mistakely-purchased DEH-P310UB, I'll get my DEH-P4100UB and away I go!

The adapter kit comes with a main adapter (rectangular plug) for the power wiring and four (4) speaker adapters with round plugs.

SW Stereo will also sell the adapters or make you specific wiring adapters if you have the M490 option, IIRC.

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[biotechee]

<!--quoteo(post=79821:date=Sep 10 2009, 01:39 PM:name=flash)-->QUOTE (flash @ Sep 10 2009, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->still, i think a simple harness plug serves well - run the cool deck unless you are showing the car, and then stick in the stock one (working or not since they never turn it on)<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

With the adapters available that I mentioned above, this could easily be done in less than 30 minutes as long as you have the radio removal tools. And seems like a solid plan to me.

I personally can't wait to remove the CR-1 from my cab. Sometime in the future, I will also upgrade the speakers.

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[flash]

yeah - it was pretty silly when they were suggesting q-tips would help you win - i was thinking i should bring along my detail guy - after all, if that's what they are looking for, he should get the trophy, not me - i had nothing to do with it at that point - car-washing competitions just hold no fascination for me - it doesn't say anything about the car, the owner, or how the car was prepared - if they aren't going to get under there and inspect the condition of the components that matter, and then spank the guy who has worn out bushings and such, then what's the point?

crest? no, i like aim better

let me know if you decide to change out your deck - i think i will be letting go my pioneer premiere DEH980-BT soon

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[biotechee]

[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] Colgate man myself...

Sent you a PM.

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[jeff968]

<!--quoteo(post=79818:date=Sep 10 2009, 12:52 PM:name=biotechee)-->QUOTE (biotechee @ Sep 10 2009, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->The point is, some people want to keep their cars original - regardless of whether or not the originality in question is better/worse/different/useful when compared to what is available nowadays.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Thank you, finally someone understands me.

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[flash]

lol - knowing something exists and understanding it are two different things

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[jeff968]

And respecting that others have different opinions on subjective matters makes for a good discussion environment.

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[Johannvb]

<!--quoteo(post=79827:date=Sep 10 2009, 08:12 PM:name=flash)-->QUOTE (flash @ Sep 10 2009, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->car-washing competitions just hold no fascination for me<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Flash, I think you are missing the point. While modified cars are cool and fun, we need people to preserve history. If i had a 1920 Rolls Royce and decided the driver seat sucks I would be insane to replace it with the latest Recaro. With cars there are two camps, the tuners and the preservers and we need both. Just my 2 cents.

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[flash]

you've heard the adage "respect must be earned" - i can respect something that makes sense to me, even if i disagree with it - for example, i can respect somebody who takes the time and trouble to build a harley - i hate them, but i can still respect the work

that's why i said somebody needed to explain it to me - i see no logical reason for keeping that piece of junk in there all the time - i fail to comprehend why anyone would subject themselves to less than they could have - if it were an issue of concourse, it is easily resolved in a quick swap out, and would take less time than wiping down the dash, but why suffer the rest of the time? i'm still looking for a reason to suffer like that

as an example, ayn didn't want to change the stock deck in the 325 either - drove me crazy - made no sense to me - it sounded so bad though that i would just turn it off rather than suffer through it - she thought it was fine - she just didn't know any better - i finally convinced her to put in the Z2 and with the mods i did to the system, she now gets it and wonders how she ever put up with the stock deck - we kept the deck for the 325 and reinstalled it for sale when we moved up to the M3 - it was a simple thing to plan for and implement - we got a great sound when we were driving it, and then it was returned to stock

if you want me to respect the position, it has to make some kind of sense on some level - if for example, you don't listen to music, then fine - if you have a tin ear, then fine - if you don't drive the car, fine - then it would make no sense to upgrade - while i would not agree with the idea, i can still respect the decision

by the way, it is only in full concourse (and possibly preservation) that it would be an issue anyway, and then you have to have something pretty darned special to win - you'd better forget about driving it on the east coast if you want to even think about regional events - the typical pitting and damage to the engine bay alone would deduct too many points - it would be an uphill struggle with a 968 anyway - the judges don't like them - local events are a no brainer and easy to win though

certainly you are entitled to do what you want to do, and i am not suggesting otherwise, but if you want me to get it, you need to make it make sense to me - otherwise, i'm just as entitled to think it's the dumbest thing i have ever heard as you are to think that it's perfect

johann - as for preservation and history, i get the idea, but these cars are not a 1920 rolls - they have no collectability or value, and likely never will - but even so, if you want to preserve it, mothball it and don't drive it - that's why all of the serious concourse guys trailer their cars

consequently, since these are great cars to drive, they should be driven, and should be maximized to enjoy the experience - i am certainly guilty of not driving mine enough - trying to fix that, but i don't drive much at all, so choosing the 968 on any given day is hard

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