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Motive Power Bleeder for Brakes/Clutch
#1

The Motive power bleeder rocks! I just used mine last weekend for total brake fluid changeout in no time at all. I don't know why I put off buying this for so long. No more having the wife or kids let up on the brake pedal before I was ready...sucking in air. Great machine. I have the MityMac also...but I much prefer the Motive.



Harvey
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#2

i just got one, too.

my first experience with flushing brakes was a happy and uneventful one.

i like that they sent out the exta tubing for the drain line.
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#3

If you don't have one, get one. It's simple to use and makes the job easy. Beer in one hand and a wrench to open\close the bleeder valve in the other. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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#4

Works for me too! Nice tool.
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#5

I've used one for a few years now and very pleased with it - If you want to save a few $$ and make your own, check out the "home made" version on this site http://www.bmw-m.net/TechProc/bleeder.htm



I flush the cars with ATE Blue and alternate with ATE Gold - that way it is easy to see when you have fresh fluid coming through the lines. Good idea to do this every 2 seasons too - brake fluid is hydroscopic and besides lowering the boiling point, it can lead to corrosion in the system.
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#6

My son started flushing the brakes and clutch with the Motive at 10-years old. It's the hot set-up.



Two notes on use:



1) Wear eye protection (you will thank me later)

2) Disconnect negative battery terminal if you are bleeding the clutch (that little 7mm wrench WILL find the hot side of the starter sooner or later)
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#7

Wow, universal praise! Where's a good place to buy this tool? Thanks
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#8

My only complaint about the Motive Power Bleeder is that it pumps the fluid out almost too fast. It comes out a lot faster than you think it is. Just make sure you have plenty of fluid on hand! What I mean to say is that it works almost TOO well. I recommend it.
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#9

I know what you mean. I have settled on running about 12 psi in the Motive and just being a little more patient. I check pressure between each wheel, usually drops about 2 psi per.



If you do it often enough and have the right size catch bottle, you will find you can run a liter of Ate Blue through there and finish with an empty Motive and a perfect level in the reservoir... NICE!



I recommend having one of those plastic syringes on hand (the kind you use to give liquid medicine to pets or children) in case you need to remove extra fluid from the reservoir.



If you have stock wheels (5-spoke), you should be able to bleed all the brakes without removing the wheels at all. I ramp the front end of the car (Rhino Ramps work well). In this position, I can still get under the rear, bleed the inner valves, and slide under the front for front brakes and clutch. All outer valves are reached through the wheels.



A perfect set-up is to bleed the brakes just prior to a good washing. If you get any drops of brake fluid anywhere but in the catch bottle, you'll be rinsing it away before it can cause any harm.



I really don't know how I lived without this device before.
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[quote name='Cloud9...68' date='Aug 25 2005, 07:23 PM']Wow, universal praise!  Where's a good place to buy this tool?  Thanks

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http://www.paragon-products.com/product_...leeder.htm



Among the other usual suspects.
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[quote name='Greimann' date='Aug 27 2005, 08:30 PM']http://www.paragon-products.com/product_...leeder.htm



Among the other usual suspects.

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Cool, under 50 bucks. A lot cheaper than Griot's Garage's version.
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#12

Griots is way overpriced on almost everything they sell. Besides they don't have a pressure bleeder, just suction bleeders. Big difference.



The pressure bleeder you hook up to the master reservoir, pump it up, put the car up on all fours and can bleed the entire brake system (and clutch) in minutes. The suction bleeders you have to move the unit from place to place. And then you have to deal with the inherent leakage around the threads of a bleed screw that slows the process down.



Pressure = good, suction = sucks.
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