[flash]

ok - found the one for the father in law - now it's time to get one for ayn



she wants a cab only - 6 spd only



exterior colors can be, in order of preference: midnight blue metallic, black, polar silver, horizon blue



absolutely no red, greens, yellows, or riv blue



interior colors can be: if mid met blue, then grey - if black, then black, if polar silver, then grey or black, if horizon blue, then grey



looking for less than 30k miles - will only consider more if i already know the car, but still not thinking over 40k



this car must be a 93-95 - no 92s



this car wants to be immaculate - we are not looking for a project car



it should not have serious modifications (rs barn bolt ons are ok)



all other options and features are open (no lambo gull wings)



extra points for flux capacitor

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[saxman]

creating quite the stable of them out there, aren't you?





I'll keep an eye open.

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[flash]

lol - working on it - i figure to have 4 of them in less than 2 years

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[rhudeboye]

Why are you stressing no 92's?





BTW- your in luck. Look what reappeared on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/One-of-a-Ki...1QQcmdZViewItem

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[flash]

lol - saw that one - no lambo doors for me, but those huge shiny wheels just make me giddy



no 92s because of:



the smaller rods



most importantly the R-12 AC



do not want a recessed badge, as ultimately it will be removed altogether (along with the rear numbers and the third brake light)



do not want clutch type lsd (should i be lucky enough to find a car with lsd)



do not want the hard pipe on the cooling system, nor the hidden bleed screw



do not want the 92 DME either



pretty sure everything else about the 92 would be fine though - not a huge deal, and i suppose if i found the "perfect" car, i could make an exception, but it would have to be literally a mothballed showroom perfect car - to give you a minimum standard for comparison, the one i just bought has less than 15k miles on it (no, that's not a typo), and i still think it needs some clean up - i am really looking for concourse perfect, but i intend to drive it, and don't want to have to tear into it to upgrade and update things to do it - i have a hard time imagining a 92 being able to fit that bill

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[bob blackwell]

There is a red '94 cabriolet for sale here in Albuquerque, but I guess that is not one of your desired colors. Good luck, Bob Blackwell.

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[flash]

yeah a couple of reds ones out there actually - but, she said NO RED

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[94SilverCab]

When I was looking for my Miata, the only requirement was, NO RED!

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[flash]

most of my sports cars were red - love red myself, EXCEPT on the 968 - i think it's the black rubbers that bug me - not sure - i also don't think the solid colors show off the curves as much



but, none of that matters - she does not want red, period, and i'm not starting that conversation with her again

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[rhudeboye]

[quote name='flash' post='44179' date='Nov 30 2007, 09:37 PM']no 92s because of:



the smaller rods



clutch type lsd



the hard pipe on the cooling system, nor the hidden bleed screw[/quote]



As much time as I spent on this forum I never knew that.

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[flash]

yeah - i'm sure the rods are fine for a street car - i'm just not looking to be taking any chances



also don't want the added maintenance and noises of the clutch type lsd in this street car



the hard pipe and bleed screw are just more of a pain - nothing functionally wrong



i can live with the added spacers between the intake and fuel rail cover that the 92 has, that the others don't, but would also prefer not to have those either

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[jeff968]

[quote name='flash' post='44179' date='Nov 30 2007, 11:37 PM']no 92s because of:



the smaller rods[/quote]



I'm not sure what you mean here??? Pet doesn't mention anything about a 92 rod, they have 944 103 008 04 as the rod for a 968 engine.



A plus for the 92's is that they are consider by many to be the best put together of all the years. Porsche had big hopes of success for the 968 in 1992 so they made sure they were put together with the highest quality. By 1994 the sales battle was over and the 968 had lost and Porsche put together the last of them and then moved on to the Boxster.

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[banditsc]

[quote name='jeff968' post='44226' date='Dec 2 2007, 10:41 PM']I'm not sure what you mean here??? Pet doesn't mention anything about a 92 rod, they have 944 103 008 04 as the rod for a 968 engine.



A plus for the 92's is that they are consider by many to be the best put together of all the years. Porsche had big hopes of success for the 968 in 1992 so they made sure they were put together with the highest quality. By 1994 the sales battle was over and the 968 had lost and Porsche put together the last of them and then moved on to the Boxster.[/quote]







There was a service bulletin about it from Porsche, the later rods have a reinforced transition area from stem to bolt head seating surface. Again, it's not a big deal unless your tracking the car running at redline around the track then you might see the issue.

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[flash]

yeah - since it would stay pretty stock, i'm reasonably sure i would never have a problem with it, but i'm just not taking any chances



besides, the other things are still "issues" for me, and i'd just rather stay clear



as for "better put together" maybe, maybe not - i tend to think, as do most people, that you don't want the first year of any car, because they haven't worked out the kinks - some evidence of that is shown on the 968



similar reasons, albeit to a lesser degree, would steer me away from the last year too



93 or early 94 (718 code) would be my preference

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[PorscheDude]

I would never buy a "first year" car, ever...



The manufacturer is usually still ironing out details and fine tuning the production line. Workers make mistakes because they have to relearn some new sequence or assembly technique.



Prior to MY92, they were all built in another factory. Come My92 built at the Porsche factory which is great but I am sure there was some production issues with this transaction.

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[flash]

yeah - that's pretty much my feeling - not saying it's "junk" or anything near that, just a preference - as i said, if the perfect example came along, i can see myself over-riding the preference



we want to get something more fun to drive than the E46 convertible, which, as great a car as it has been (and it's a 5 spd and fully loaded with lots of upgrades), it just isn't as fun as we'd like - now that ayn does not commute via car anymore, we can get something less practical



the bottom line is that it is not about the money or anything else - i would love to have another 968 - so, we are looking for a PERFECT 968 - it's going to be that or a very low mileage DB7 (and she already has her eye on one that we can snag for 69k)

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[PorscheDude]

Go for the DB7 and be the envy of us mere Porsche mortals <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/wacko.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[flash]

lol - yeah - that's what i need - another british car to leak and short out in my garage - i already have the TR-4A coming over soon



don't get me wrong - i think the car is sexy and stunning - just not sure i want to get into something that complicated



i'd also like to avoid dumping that much cash into a car that will sit pretty much just in the garage - as it stands, the bmw battery was too low to start it saturday, because it sat that long - after we moved here, it took 3 months to use the first tank of gas



of course, i wouldn't mind driving a DB7 around.........



nah - i'd rather be driving another 968

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[jeff968]

[quote name='smokiemon968' post='44235' date='Dec 3 2007, 09:23 AM']I would never buy a "first year" car, ever...



The manufacturer is usually still ironing out details and fine tuning the production line. Workers make mistakes because they have to relearn some new sequence or assembly technique.



Prior to MY92, they were all built in another factory. Come My92 built at the Porsche factory which is great but I am sure there was some production issues with this transaction.[/quote]



I would agree with you on many new cars but let's remember the 968 was almost called the 944S3 so they were very familiar with the design and assembly of the vehicle and it wouldn't be the same as the launch of the Boxster which was completely new. I've owned two 92s for 11 years and have had no issues. I own the 9th one built right now. There are other owners who have owned both 92s and 94-95s and observed a loss in general build quality. I understand the other issues that Bob references.



Back to the rods, so if I was to have to replace a rod on my 92 motor and PET only lists one and I ordered a new one from Porsche you are saying that the rod would be different? But not different enough so that one could be of one type and the other three of another type?

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[PorscheDude]

[quote name='jeff968' post='44239' date='Dec 3 2007, 10:15 AM']Back to the rods, so if I was to have to replace a rod on my 92 motor and PET only lists one and I ordered a new one from Porsche you are saying that the rod would be different? But not different enough so that one could be of one type and the other three of another type?[/quote]







It would be different.

It would more than likely have a different weight and therefore, throw the reciprocating mass out off balance.

You would need to replace all 4 rods.

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