[ds968]

99% leaning toward buying the Pilot PS2 . Anyone running on these ?



Daily driving ( but rarely in the rain ) and not tracking the car.



My tires' current thread is far from getting to where the penny test would dictate changing them, but at about 100 mph they start howling...and like, really loud, so

it's annoying enough to make me spend $ 800 for new " shoes " .

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[sasilverbullet]

Couple of thoughts - Porsche testing dept. says if you run under 4mm tread depth, you greatly increase the chance of hydroplaning.



I have PS2's on the rear, and I love them! I also hear a LOT of good press on different Porsche forums about the Yokohama AVS ES100.

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[sasilverbullet]

Whoops, sorry, I have Michelin Pilot Sports, not PS2's.

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[insite94]

Dan -



I have the ES100's on all 4 corners. Mine is a daily driver - about 27K miles/yr. I love acceleration and an occasional hard corner. These things stick like glue and are pretty quiet when new. You'll love them for the first 10,000 miles.



There is a fine line between pleasure and pain when these things quickly turn into howling banshees after that on worn or rain-grooved pavement. (They are still quiet on fresh blacktop. Right, try to find that in CA!) Unfortunately, they tram-line like crazy and dart all over the road, which takes 2 hands on the wheel at all times. I hate them now and my tire bills are getting expensive. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/mad.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



If you are looking for consistently quiet with some longevity, avoid ES100's.



I'll second the request for a quiet set of tires. Any ideas

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[flash]

all this talk of tire noise - i have no idea what that is - i've been driving ragtops for 25 years and could never get close to hearing that kind of thing - i think my new bigger tires are a bit noisier, but i have an anti-noise knob in my dash for that - i feel sorry for you hardtop guys - that must be annoying

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[insite94]

I remember having that exact same hard-of-hearing problem in my cab too! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> Then I bought a coupe and my hearing returned (donning Nomex suit now!)



Only teasing you, Flash! I spend a few days each month doing 500 miles at a crack in the 968. Quiet becomes important when my livlihood is made one conference call at a time. I couldn't see buying a Cadillac just to accommodate the phone calls. No Sir, I kept my priorities straight and drive a Porsche!



If anyone sees a 968 travelling at a high rate of speed, well, I'm the one your insurance company warned you about <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



Jeez, I gotta get to Bonneville and work off the need for speed! Anyone know where I can get a good set of narrow hard rubber tires? <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/wink.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[sasilverbullet]

I used to hang out a lot at ppbb.com (Boxster board). The concensus over there is that the Michelin PS2's are the quietest for the longest.

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[ds968]

Well, according to Tire Rack and America's Tire and essentially every single consumer review on the internet, AND more importantly the set of four I have on my MBZ, the Yokohama dBS2 are BY FAR the quietest tires ever produced.. and supposedly stay that way the longest with a tread wear of 320 - I'm guessing it'll be more than 40k miles before I need new ones. However, even though they are speed rated at over 160mph, I'm not sure the all around "performance" characteristics are suitable for the Porsche. Since I want both features - the PS2 might just do the trick.

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[ds968]

btw - I like the look of the thread on the Pilot Sports much more than the boring PS2, but all indications are the PS2 is a superior handling tire in every respect and price is almost the same, so I'll compromise on the tire appearance this time <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/sad.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[flash]

check the actual widths - the earlier version was a full inch narrower in the 255 than the S0-3 and the kumho - you may want to upsize if you don't want the tire to look small

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[ds968]

where would I find width information ?

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[flash]

on the tire rack site - click the "specs" button when you go to look at a tire

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[ds968]

got it.



now, if I do go one size up what can I put on 7.5 / 65 front and 9 / 55 rear without having to modify, space, etc.. anything ?



i have the stock 225 45 17 and 255 40 17 on

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[flash]

poke around and see what the outside diameters give you - staying around 25" you should have a couple of choices - perhaps you can even drop a profile size

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[ds968]

just my luck, the tread width on the PS2 is listed as " N/A " on the specs page



they have most of the all the others' tread width; the SO3, Yokos, Kumhos, etc.. but not the PS2, wouldn't you know it.. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/mad.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[bbranch]

Personally, for an all-around tire that isn't too loud, is fairly sticky even on damp pavement, gets decent treadwear, I'd recommend the Bridgestone RE750s

I drive ~500 miles per week and I regularly take corners marked for 20mph at 40, 30 at 60, 35 at 65. I have a nice winding route I take to work :-) Ran a set of these on a 951 for over a year and really liked them.



-Brett

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[ds968]

I experimented today by running the tires at 40 psi (cold) and later in the day at 30 psi. At 100mph + the tire howling is essentially the same at both inflation levels, but I liked the feel of the ride on the highway and the street far better with 30 psi. So I think I might just keep them like that until I buy new tires.. .in that sense who cares if the wear will be a bit uneven ( edges will go quicker ? ) - it'll just expedite my decision to change them. Pity though, the damn things look brand new - every groove and cut is still around 4 or 5 mm depth. Even the ones at the very edges of the tire. Hate to discard them in this shape, but all I want to hear ( when the music is off ) is that engine and the BB exhaust. Well, the wind noise is not very pleasant and I get that right around 70 mph, but you add tire humming on top of that and it just becomes too much to tolerate.

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[chazmink]

I have been pleased with Continental ContiExtremeContacts. They are great in rain (and the surprise snowstorm that catches you at work). You can outfit your car from Tire Rack for under $400. Regardless of how you go, I recommend reviewing the reviews, etc on the Tirerack.com website.

Charlie

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[ds968]

yeah, I like the tire rack site comparisons, reviews, etc. been spending a lot of time recently on those

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[19bwb67]

the dbs2's may be quiet, but my personal experience is that its a crime to but them on a porsche unless you intend on driving your porsche like grandma on a Sunday cruise. With the Dbs2 you will never come remotely close to enjoying what your porsche is capaple of-Which imho is a crime as well.

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