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found a car - noise question
#61

The pinion bearing is a high pitch whine. Think J-79 jet engine whine The wheel bearing sound is more like a rumble, lower in frequency than the pinion bearing. If your have a lot of miles on the car you might want to put in new synchros for 1st thru 4th gears.

 

The very first thing I did when I bought my car was to change the belts. A belt failure results in a 5 figure engine rebuild. I have been changing my belts every 30K miles or three years whichever comes first for the 22 years that I have owned the car. Think of it as cheap insurance. 

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#62

My pinion bearing was not a high pitched whine. It was a loud noise that overshot everything else - so you can't assume they all sound the same. It sounded like metal on metal grinding...

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#63

Quote:My pinion bearing was not a high pitched whine. It was a loud noise that overshot everything else - so you can't assume they all sound the same. It sounded like metal on metal grinding...

I think yours may have been very close to impending doom - the photo shows at least moderate if not severe damage ; chipped off components like that will undoubtedly make a grinding metal sound, and bits floating around getting in between something where tolerances are so small may have ended up locking and possibly even tearing your gears apart. All pinion bearings will start with a whine ( mine had just a single pit and no bigger than the size of a pinhead but it still whined sufficiently loud to indicate something is definitely wrong ) From there it progresses to larger pitting and after a while to a stage where the parts start chipping off, as in your photo. At that point the noise would definitely change from a mild whine to what you were hearing. The mechanic who fixed my pinion bearing , among quite a few other 968s whose pinion bearings he worked on , showed me another gear with far less damage than yours and said " this was a grenade waiting for the pin to fall out " .
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#64

My transmission imploding was a loud bang.
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#65

I bought the car from a  friend's widow. She said he loaned the car out to a friend and when he got it back, something was wrong with it and he parked it. It then sat for several years in the garage.

I bought it anyway, not knowing how much it would cost to resurrect the car, naively thinking, wow a cheap Porsche! Cool! Yea, right. If I know that I was going to spend 10K + on the car before I even got to drive it a mile, I would have walked, no, ran away from it.

Again, that brings me full circle to my original point. Everyone wants one, but no one wants to pay for one. I hope you get your car fixed or bought or what ever this thread started as.

I just wish I could sell mine.
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#66

Patience grasshopper. Your time will come!
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#67

The multiple "desperation" sales prices we've seen on these cars have done so much damage to the 968 value and its perception I almost feel there should be a criminal charge levied against those who have brought it barely above the world of a 944 in the public eye.

I've had 944s for eighteen years and I liked them for what they were, but to think of a 968 in the same league and price parameters one is willing to pay for it's not just absurd, it's plain and simple idiotic ! It's like comparing a Fiat to a Ferrari, and yet the masses out there feel if they can buy a 944 in good shape for $ 6 K or $ 7 K , or a 944 S2 for about $ 10 K, why pay $ 20 to $ 25 K for a 968. WE know precisely why, but no one else outside these forums have a clue .
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#68

Now now. Ds would you could you admit you’re perhaps somewhat biased? Buyers pay what they are willing to. Sellers sell for the price they want or for the price they are comfortable with. Comfortable is of course relative. While I agree with you on the relative value of our cars from our perspective, it would appear that most of the marketplace doesn’t assign the same value to the 968. Name calling doesn’t change this. Finding a buyer who will pay the price you believe your 968 is worth is the real issue. How does one do this? Clearly if the prices don’t meet our expectations then new buyers need to be found. The devil is in that detail. This is what the discussion should revolve around.
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#69

Of course I'm biased, lol, but that bias is supported by substantial experience vs. comparable autos, and just because the common marketplace is ignorant, does not change the facts. However it does affect demand and what a would-be-buyer is willing to commit for a 968. Sad, but that's the way things play out I suppose. My only advice : if you don't HAVE TO sell, stick firmly to the price you feel the car deserves, regardless of what the market indicates it should be.
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#70

Honest and experienced. What a combo. A new age man. I agree with your assessment.

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