[flash]

tama - lol



rap - until we eliminate the pharmaceutical industry from the "for profit" column, we will never have a medicaid system that pays what things really cost. until we eliminate the freeloaders from the system, we will never have a system that pays what things really cost. those people need coverage. as it stands though, over 25% of ER patients are treated with no chance of reimbursement to the facility. that cost is passed along in the form of higher costs to those who do have coverage.



another thing that people seem to fail to grasp is that if we had a basic plan that was tax paid, there would be a lot less bureaucracy involved, which would further lower costs. a third of hospital costs are administrative, due almost entirely to dealing with health insurance companies. i can think of no system that is so burdened with supporting itself.



here is some interesting reading:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/201...are-costs/

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[Rap]

Medicaid will never pay what it costs. Of course define, " what it really costs"! Medicaid remains an abused insurance. Everyday I see people with commercial and Medicaid coverage. It does however provide an existing platform to offer coverage to the uninsured. Coverage that people should have and do need. These new public exchanges are wolves in sheeps clothing and provide a slippery slope to institute HMO type policies and coverage. Flash taking the third party out would dramatically lower costs. Unfortunately many don't understand and perhaps can't understand how insurance works. I shudder at the thought of some folks making selections on these new exchanges. My sincerest wish is that they are all democrats who voted for our self anointed king.

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[flash]

if only we could get socialized medicine as a base plan, like nearly every other civilized country.................it's so much better as a whole. but, big business and the short-sighted republicans will never let that happen.



ok - we have now once again gotten WAY off track.



back to the ATE issue. i'm not sure what to do about the fluid now. i really like the fact that it's blue, though it is the same color as the SC fluid, and the windshield washer fluid, so maybe it's time to change anyway. i'm going to see if i can find something red. i want it to be a color other than something else in the car.

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[AJG]

[quote name='tamathumper' timestamp='1377209114' post='147781']

I agree completely with flash, and couldn't have said it better myself. He's a short, overweight, bald, middle-aged, elitist snob mick/dumb swede. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/biggrin.png" class="smilie" alt="" /> And I know he will choose not to be offended. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/wink.png" class="smilie" alt="" />

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Hang on a minute! you're talking about me! If you throw in some more height, lose the baldness ( well maybe not) overweight, only slightly although my feet do shout " get of me you fat bastard" ( I think I carry it well), definitely chuck out the lineage and insert daft Scot, keep the elitist but call it fussy and we're there! Stop talking about me like that!

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[WJH]

I seem to be confused. For people that know nothing about their car why would they know what color the different fluids are? Do they really think people would know the difference without reading the label on the bottles? This just seems rather silly. I feel safer at night knowing these bureaucrats are on the job!

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[flash]

lol - i'm only carrying about 20lbs over my perfect weight, but it bugs me, as i was an athlete, and i'm not fond of being less than i can be.



back to brake fluid. anybody know of a good red or purple one?

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[Cloud9...68]

I did a quick search, and it appears that DOT5 brake fluid is purplish in color. It's silicone based, so it doesn't absorb moisture, and is claimed to have a higher boiling point that DOT 3 and DOT 4 fluids. I've never heard of it before, but it might be worth checking into.

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[kzem1]

That was some interesting reading. I bet Banditsc had no idea that his post would go here. LOL

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[banditsc]

Brake fluid other then clear or gold is illegal, so any other colors would probably be short lived. Maybe our friends north of the border can smuggle some of it down for us.



Some more details on the reasoning.



"Brake fluids are the only ones with a color mandate due to moisture absorption.



With the exception of silicone brake fluids, all the rest of them are hygroscopic and start turning brown as they absorb moisture. DOT wants the owner or shop to be able make a visual judgement and the blue dye prevented that."

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[Rap]

What is a perfect weight and who determines that? Please don't tell me it is the Health and Services Administration! lol

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[Tom030]

Cloud,

Dot 5 is not compatible with dot 4 or any other brake fluids. It does have a higher boiling point both wet and dry but eats seals. Used primarily in racing applications where the systems are rebuilt after every use.

~tom

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[flash]

yeah - you can't use silicone fluid without changing all rubber components and seals first. also, you get a spongy pedal, as silicone fluid compresses 3 times more than glycol based fluids

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[Cloud9...68]

Ah, OK, thanks for the explanations. I had never heard of DOT 5 brake fluid before, so I was wondering if there was some reason it isn't in widespread use, given that it seems to have some positive attributes.

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[ds968]

There's always the Red DOT one, but you have to import it from India .

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[flash]

roflmao

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[Inkedupfatboy]

LMAO - that's funny.



Thank you for calling technical support - my name is Dennis.....

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