[ds968]

I've gotten a lot of flack when comparing the 968 with the Dino, but I think there is enough similarity among the two to categorize the 968 as the Dino of the Porsche world ; both underpowered compared to the other models , both limited production, and both arguably the most beautiful model of the entire line in the brand's history . I'm not suggesting the 968 will ever reach a market value anyway near the Dino's , nor even close proportionally to their respective original price, but maybe some day those 911 purists , and for that matter anyone else who find those upside-down bathtubs, glorified VW appealing for some reason will wake up and realize what they're missing. Or not..., lol.

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[Inkedupfatboy]

Send the 22K guy to my house. He can have mine without a moment's hesitation.

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[2CS67]

Send the 22K guy to my house. He can have mine without a moment's hesitation.

What do you have and are you really looking to sell?

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[Kaj Hallstrom]

I am becoming more and more fund of the responses to my original post. It is very clear that we all have different opinions of the "true" value of our 968's.

The value, as I can read from the posts, is divided into two categories. Monetary and emotional. I don't think you will find many people emotionally involved in their Toyota Camry or their Honda Accord even though they are very well crafted machines. That's the difference with the Dino, the 914, The Fiat Spider and many of the classic machines of the past. They where not made for speed but for Grand Touring. The 968 is a beautiful designed car and there is not a day, when I take her out, without a comment or a compliment is given........and I kind of enjoy that. That makes me proud of having something different.....and it makes it more fun to clean, maintain in the garage.

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[Rap]

Kaj, I think you hit on a main point here about our 968's. They are fun to drive, clean, tinker and be seen in. I always get compliments in mine and it brings an immediate ear to ear grin to my face. The 968 was my first Porsche and I have purchased two since. We drove the boxsters twice when we came out to the west coast gatherings. Great car with good handling. I've contemplated purchasing a cayman and of course a 911. But these are just pleasurable flights of fancy. We have something most people don't have, a 968. You can say what you want about them but if they are fun, bring you pleasure and a grin to your face then what more do you need? Hoping that the value goes up doesn't really bring me any great pleasure. Would I like them to get the financial recognition I think they deserve, of course. But if that happened it would become more of an investment which would change the value of the pleasure I derive from it. I'd drive it even less for fear of reducing the investment value.

There are plenty of Porsche's to buy as an investment vehicle. I didn't buy mine for that reason and it is never brought into my consideration. I drive it for fun. What's the value of fun?

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[flash]

you have hit the nail on the head.  the 968 falls short of optimal in almost every statistical comparison, yet is still a fun car to drive.  i bought mine IN SPITE of the fact that it was a porsche.  i bought it IN SPITE of the fact that it was not a sports car.  i bought in IN SPITE of the fact that it was big, heavy and slow.  it resonated with me anyway, and i had a blast owning, tinkering, and playing with it.  in a perfect world, i could have hung onto it.  it would have just sat there though, and with as much work as i put into it, it was better to see it "grow up and leave the nest" and go to somebody who would actually do what it was built for, which is drive it.

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[type968]

I would think something to be said for last water-cooled rear transaxle car ever made by porsche. Used to be the last front engine, not anymore.

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[flash]

um - other than the panamera, and the SUVs, i think all porsches are rear transaxle.  all of them are water-cooled now too.

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[Waylander]

Just popped up for sale here a 1995 928 GTS manual in black 26k miles £95,000 or $120,000


Now that is a lot of money

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[2CS67]

Just popped up for sale here a 1995 928 GTS manual in black 26k miles £95,000 or $120,000


Now that is a lot of money

Do you have a link?

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[Kim]

That is also a lot of car.

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[williamoss]

what is the difference of a GTS versus a normal 968 ? I know what a turbo one is?

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[Kim]

That is a 928 GTS, not a 968.  928 GTS had 5.4 Litre V8, 355 bhp, 5 speed manual (most), front engine rear transaxle, more technology than other cars of the time. I wish that I had one now.

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[Inkedupfatboy]

What do you have and are you really looking to sell?

I have a 94 cab 6 speed with just less than 50K on the odometer.

I have about 20K invested in the car to date.

I would sell it today if I got 22K cash out of it.

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[flash]

at $22k, with that many miles on it, the interior would have to be spotless, with no wear showing whatsoever on the seats.  the exterior would have to be free of dings, dents, or major scratches.  all service would need to complete and up to date.  the top would need to be in decent shape, with no discoloration of the window, or popped stitches.  the wheels would need to be free of road rash.  all modifications would need to be reversible, with all OEM parts available.

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<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">if the car is just "normal wear and tear", with that many miles on it, but everything else is up to snuff, i would place it at about $19-20k.  

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<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">top end for a 40k - 60k mile hardtop these days is about $18k and a cab about $22k, assuming there is nothing special in terms of options and such

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<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">a few things that will affect price:

<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">mileage below 40k - add $2000

<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">mileage above 60k - subtract $500

<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">mileage above 100k - subtract $1500

<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">up to date service records - add $500

<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">out of date service (other than belts) - subtract $1000

<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">belts not done in the last 18 months - subtract $1000

<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">seats showing wear - subtract $1000

<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">any body or paint work required - subtract anywhere from $1000 to $5000

<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">any signs of leaks - subtract $500-$1000

<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">dirty engine bay - subtract $$500-1000

<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">super clean engine bay - add $500

<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">dirty interior - subtract $1000

<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">wheels with road rash - subtract $1000

<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">year correct 17" wheels - add $500

<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">convertible top with popped stitches or cloudy window - subtract $1000

<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">red car - subtract $1000

<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">white car - subtract $500

<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">black car - subtract $500

<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">tip - subtract $1500

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<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">i just sold the white car, with far fewer miles, and an immaculate interior, exterior, and year correct original equipment very clean OEM 17" wheels and side impact strips.  the car was bone stock, save for the stereo and M030 swaybars.  everything was up to date, and much work recently done.  granted it was a tip, but the car was exceptionally clean, with just 28k miles on it. sale price was $23k

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<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">i just sold the black car, with less than 60k miles on it, with an extremely clean original full leather interior, no major scratches, no dents or dings, good paint, brand new top, clean wheels, and a ton of extras, including a supercharger.  that one went for $25k

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<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">these are 2 of probably the cleanest cars we will see for sale any time soon.  they were both on the market for a while before they sold.

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<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">people can "ask" for whatever they want.  you may love the car, and think it's worth a lot.  the reality though is that these cars are not now, nor likely to soon be, worth much.  i think we have probably seen the last of any hardtop going for over $20k for a long time, and likely just about there for any normal cab.

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<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(35,35,35);">it doesn't mean that the cars aren't fun.  it doesn't mean that people shouldn't enjoy them.  it means that people should just drive the piss out of them, and not worry about the value.

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[Waylander]

928 GTS

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/u...ar/6987501

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[blau]

Factory M030 - add $4-5k seems to be the case in all of the sales where the sellers knew M030 was a special option. The last two I know of were in the 85k mile range and sold for $24 and $26k. Both were well maintained examples.

Speed Yellow, Riviera Blue and maybe Maritime Blue are the colors that can command more premium from the factory as they're a bit flashy and rare - plus were available as 968 Clubsport colors.

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[flash]

re: M030 - that was the case years ago.  i've been watching this one pretty closely.  on average today it barely adds $1000.  there will always be the outlier, but on average, that's what it is.  this is because the equipment is almost always in need of rebuilding, is an outdated design, costs more to maintain, and is generally undesirable to anybody other than a collector or an autocross guy looking at points.  as the prices of these cars falls, the "cool factor" of M030 is also falling, due to the disparity in cost to maintain.

 

re: 928GTS - i sure wish the 968 had anything at all to do with that car.  it would be nice to pick up some of that value.

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[ds968]

For speed yellow you can add $ 10 K to any 968 and likely get it , for riviera blue count on about $ 5 k more ..all else being equal of course ..

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[Kaj Hallstrom]

My mechanic still claims that the 968 is much better built than the 928. I guess due to what they learned from the mistakes in the early 924/944/928 years. Now the 928 GT and GTS are collecting big bucks. I regret selling my 1980 928 "The Shark". I loved that car and it only had 29000 miles on it when I bought it....well, well money talks...bulls*** walks...and small change rides the bus!!!

 

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