[jeff968]

Great news for the Turbo RS and the 968 world! I know Prescott as he used to live here in CT and was a member of the Porsche club. Oh, and I won the 968 price is right game! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.png" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[Porsche Steve]

Was at the Gooding Auction this afternoon and got a chance to watch all the Drendel cars cross the block... the white Turbo RS clone was absolutely georgous! I was in on the bidding early until my lovely wife wrestled the paddle out of my hand at about $40k... It went for $66k which was probably good money since the Gooding rep had announced that $200k had been invested in the car. All of the cars in the collection went for big money but all of the cars were in top condition. At one point, each of the race cars was started up for the real serious guys to verify the running condition and the engine sounds were like a symphony! Both 968's were to die for...



steve

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[Joel968]

The bidding was fast on this can with more than 6 to 8 parties out of the gate. Those that doubted the price or bidding are fools or not informed. This car has LeMan history.

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[Rap]

I don't know about fools or not informed, how about just overly opinionated? Lol

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[JWahlsten]

Okay guys, the auction number for the Turbo RS was ... cough ... holy crap ... cough $346,500. A record for the 968.



This pales in comparison to the $4,400,000 for the 917/30 or the $3,245,000 for the 1974 Carrera Turbo RSR.

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[flash]

le mans history or not, i don't think the car is worth much. it never won back in the day. it isn't stock anymore. high power turbo 968s are hard to drive anyway. ask anybody who has driven one. i just don't get it. but that's ok too.



something is worth whatever somebody is willing to pay for it. i'm not willing to pay much for a car i can't drive. i'd rather have 3 360s for that, or 1 with all of its maintenance covered for the next 20 years. that doesn't mean that somebody doesn't want it and willing to pay whatever to get it. people collect the oddest things.



to each his own.

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[jeff968]

I'm guessing it is worth $346,500 and the better news, it was bid up to that price!!! Great news for the 968 community!!!

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[ds968]

Again, I think this unique sale does absolutely nothing for the value of 968s in general ..regrettably of course...

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[flash]

yup - clearly there are some really odd fanatics out there, and bully for them. personally, they would have to pay me to take it. i want no part of that headache. cars are to be driven, not parked, and where the heck are you going to drive that?



i agree though, that it will have little to no impact on normal 968s. perhaps some extremely clean bone stock cars might increase in value, but there aren't many of those around any more. most everybody has done something to the car, which reduces its collectibility. that's the same with any collectible car though.



in the end, does it really matter? as long as you're having fun, who cares how?

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[Monstrous4Banger]

In general....probably not. For the other factory turbo cars, and clones.......still not convinced it wont bring up the demand, and value. Time will tell.

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[flash]

might bring up the demand for the 951 for sure. it's a much more affordable version and much more easily pumped up

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[JWahlsten]

I don't see it bringing up the value of our cars in general, but I can't see it pushing the 951 either. I've had both, enjoyed both, but keep going back to the 968 for its everyday usefulness and torque. The 951 would be my preferred track/DE car though if I wanted power. For racing I would still prefer the 968 or the 944 for tractability... The 951 goes through parts quicker than the 968 too.

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[flash]

i don't know about the prices of the 951 going up, but i see more people maybe wanting one. the whole "turbo" thing. you can get the performance without the price tag. had they have brought the 944 Turbo Cab here to the states, i would not own a 968

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[tamathumper]

[quote name='flash' timestamp='1331912485' post='123395']i don't know about the prices of the 951 going up, but i see more people maybe wanting one. the whole "turbo" thing. you can get the performance without the price tag. had they have brought the 944 Turbo Cab here to the states, i would not own a 968[/quote]



Agreed, the 16-valvers have bitten me a few times.

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[Joel968]

We went to the auction to bid on a few cars from the Dendrell collection, the crowd was full of well known Porsche collectors and buyers reps. The 968RS bid was driven by several bidders, the market spoke and the hammer fell. That car had LeMan history but did not win and was modified by L. Hawkins, can you image what Jasons car is worth.

The clone was a superior car and it is my opinion that both of these sales help the overall value of our car. Limited production run, hand built with the factory race car now commanding over 300K. Based on opinions from this site you had better stop modifing your cars or they will be worthless and no one will want to own them.

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[chudson]

IMHO I side with Joel. Any time my car is modded I remove the original item and put it in storage. I purchase a new or nearly new used replacement item to modify and install onto my car. With one or two days worth of time my car could be back to original condition if ever necessary.



An excerise in futility, you ask? Perhaps, but talk to the guy who owns a very nice Corvette, but the previous owner swapped the original engine for something "better". I dealing with that right now trying to sell a 63 convertible. Worth aroung half of what it could bring if it had been left alone or at least all the original parts were still available.



It will never happen, you say? Perhaps, but 30 years ago a friend of mine offered me his 65 convertible for 4000 - high HP big block all matching numbers. Fast forward 30 years. The car will now fetch over 100,000. He still owns it and is very happy I don't!



Every time I see a 968 destroyed it's sad, but for some of us maybe money in the bank?



Time will indeed tell.



The problem is, unlike the vintage Corvette, at today's values one cannot justify restoring any 968 except for the rarest of factory race cars. So if you have a pristine car keep it that way. If you want one to mod or track find a car that needs too much restoration to return to the street and start there. At least you are saving a 968 from the crusher!

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[JWahlsten]

I'd love to think our cars will be worth something like a big block Corvette someday, but those cars were coveted when they were new. I hope it will be. Regardless, I will enjoy it and modify it very little as I like it the way it is... well, mostly.



I did install M030 shocks off of a 944 Turbo S this morning and set the ride height. I'll get the corner balance and alignment in order to drive the living snot out of it. I didn't buy it to look at. I keep it well maintained, but autocross and DE it (haven't yet but will very soon). It's a great car and if I go racing I'll get a race car, but this is the perfect all-rounder for me...



We're a little off topic, but hey, it's our list. Cars like Jeff's are cool, and I respect the guys that do concours. However, I like to drive too much. It's why I don't buy the lowest mile example with the intention of being a gold mine someday. These are great machines that somehow the confluence of parts just came together to make a highly enjoyable driving experience.



Long story short, no matter why you bought it, enjoy it. I still have the stock parts, but only really keep them around as they aren't worth much and they are a bonus to the next owner. Or, I can put the car back to stock for when I find my next M030 car...

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[flash]

i have most of the stock parts too. not really sure why, other than to keep replacements around for the white car.



i bought 2 low mileage cars (one at 22k and one at 14k). one was a major concour winning car. i never planned to mothball either one though, knowing full well that they would never be worth anything. i just wanted to avoid many miles of some other owner running them into the ground and not maintaining them.



the blue car became the test platform for all of the stuff i do. the white one just doesn't get driven much, but not for lack of desire, just for lack of opportunity.



if somebody wants to concours their car, i can respect that, but i don't get it. i think they are missing out on the best part of owning one of these, which is driving the snot out of it. if i wanted to sit and stare at a car, i'd put it in my living room.



i've had some pretty exotic cars over the years, and i drove all of them like they were intended. they are autoMOBILEs after all, and not autofurniture.



but whatever.

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[Rap]

Perhaps one could concours their car and drive the snot out of it? Lol that's my deal!

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[flash]

i tried that. bva does it, though he doesn't flog it nearly as hard as some. after a short while you give up on trying to keep it clean enough to win. i picked up a couple of trophies, and then said "enough".



but again, whatever floats somebody's boat

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