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wrecked my 968
#1

looks like another 968 will be going to that great parking lot in the sky.



I decided to drive me 968 on friday for the last time this season since we were getting some snow on Saturday.

It was about 20 degrees outside but it was sunny and the roads were dry.

As I was leaving work there is a littlee chicane that is behind one of our buildings.

I wasn't going that fast and i've gone through there a hundred time before.

Well, when it's 20 degrees the Kumho MXs don't have much grip.

On top of that they put down a layer of sealant over the asphalt a couple months ago.

It is a quick little left right corner and I was going about 20-25.

I gave it a little gas coming out of the end and the rear end stepped out and kept going, once I had lost traction there was nothing i could do to regain control.

I spun off the road and right into a tree with my driver side front fender.

it looks to have tweaked the firewall pretty good. even the dash moved.

Also the roof above the driver door buckled.

looks like it would take some major work with a frame straightener.

I haven't heard back from the insurance adjuster yet but i'm guessing it's probably totalled.



Todd <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/sad.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />





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#2

Todd,

#1 - You're OK - that counts for a lot; almost everything.

#2 - We all feel your pain.

#3 - It's "just a car" - keep saying that, at some point you may come to believe it.

#4 - The parts can be worth quite a bit.

#5 - You can buy another one.

Don't be surprised if lots of good comes from what is feeling really bad right now.

Jim
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#3

very sad to see... at least you're ok...







if you're interested in parting it, there's a few things I wouldn't mind talking you out of.
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#4

That sucks man!
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#5

You are OK. That is always the most important thing.



What a bummer!
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'89 944 S2 (gone to live in the Midwest)

'77 911S (RIP)

And a whole bunch of VWs over the years...
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#6

cheer up, that'll buff right out! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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#7

Todd,



So sorry about your car. Those pictures are tough to see. Glad you're OK.



I did the same thing last year, going even slower. Had Bridgestone S0-3's on the car when it

was about 20 degrees and snowy. That was not very smart. But as luck and good fortune would have it,

when I took a turn and I traded ends, there was no one around. God was looking down on me, and

it seems the same for you - glad you're OK, but at the same time it sucks big time to crash that

beautiful car. So sorry about that.



What are you going to be driving between now and when you find another 968?



-Scott
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#8

Glad to hear that you are ok. Lets hope this is not becoming an epidemic! Two in one week!
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#9

a word to everyone:



IT'S WINTER!!!



be careful out there - not everybody is paying attention, or knows how to drive in the weather
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#10

Here's to living in Florida, where it is ALWAYS summer (or hurricane season)
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#11

[quote name='Scott Collins' post='44268' date='Dec 3 2007, 07:26 PM']Todd,



Those pictures are tough to see.



-Scott[/quote]



+1

Very hard to look at those pics. That 968 doesn't belong with the heaps in the back ground.



Cold asphalt can be very misleading. No snow or wetness and you tend to corner as if road conditions are optimal. But much like a bike, with cold sport tires and a cold road a lot of grip is sacrificed.



I am also glad that your OK. That could've been at a much higher speed and, well.. who knows.
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#12

well my 968 is just one of my fleet.

I have my 97 nissan 4x4 for winter duty.

and when it gets nice again i'll have my 07 XL1200R

i'll keep you posted of what happens with insurance.



don't let the pics fool you it was bright and sunny the day before.

Those pics were taken in the middle of an ice storm!!

It's the first time that car has been snowed on <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/sad.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



Todd
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[quote name='spectre996' post='44271' date='Dec 3 2007, 10:36 PM']Here's to living in Florida, where it is ALWAYS summer (or hurricane season)[/quote]







Where the senior citizen's are hopped up on medication, the tourists drunk, and this time of year all the french canadians.......







After 25 years of one season, I am glad I left that hell hole of state. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/cool.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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#14

bummed about the car, but at least you are all right - it could have been a LOT worse



even here in southern california, where last week, for one day only, it rained for the first time in 10 months, it was dangerous - people were just nuts, and slamming into each other - i was stunned at how many pile ups in the short 15 mile drive i had to make



we all tend to get lazy and not pay attention, and take our driving for granted - compound that by increased stopping distances, less control, and less visibility, and you have a recipe for disaster



please take extra care this time of year, sunny or not
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#15

While it is absolutely terrible to see such damage on any 968, count your blessings and check out Lord Galva's crash pics.



Regards,



Jay
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#16

so i heard back from the insurance company today.

they said the car was worth about $12k

so

i can either get rid of the car and get a check for $11k

or

i can keep the car along with a check for $8,100



my thinking is that the engine and tranny are still good

possibly the torque tube, along with alot of other good parts.



my thought is to keep the car and sell the good parts

and that should put me over the $11k amount.



any opinions on this?



Thanks

Todd
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#17

don't forget to factor in the costs of removal (any tools to do it) and the cost of storage (assuming you don't want the immovable heap in your way
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#18

The decision really depends on, as Flash mentioned, storage, plus your ability to remove, market, pack, ship, and whatever else with the myriad of parts that could be reused. In terms of the contribution to the 968 community, that would be much better than the crusher - but I guess the insurance company would sell the car to a dismantler, so the parts would still become available. You mention the potential value of the engine and transmission - how easily could you capture that value? If it were me, for example, I would not have the capability of removing etc. I'd see if I could take out some of the goodies I added (e.g., steering wheel, radio, etc.) and then be done with it.
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#19

I had similar experience a few years back. Driving with summer performance tires below 32 F is something I won't do again. Going 25 MPH straight and a slight up hill and the car gets sideways and absolutely no control. I ended up in a snow bank. Good thing because it kep me out of going into a 20 foot ditch. The snow bank was between a tree and a cement wall. In some ways a lucky day.



Driving with summer performance tires below 32 F is something I won't do again.
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#20

That's part of the reason why, every year, in the days leading up to Thanksgiving, my summer wheels and tires come off and the winter wheels and Blizzaks go on. The process is reversed generally at the end of March or the beginning of April.
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