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Rubber beading replacement for side cladding
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A common and simple wear-oriented project for the 968 is the replacement of the rubber seals or beading on the lower side body cladding. These seals become hard and brittle over time and because of the flowing curves of the 968 body cladding, will work their way out from behind the cladding. This results in an unsightly gap. I have done this job before but, with the purchase of my new cab, found the need to do the job a second time so I thought I would document my process. I’m sure there are variations on how to do this and I invite others to contribute their “tricks” to getting this job completed. You can see in the photo below where the beading comes apart from the cladding as it turns up toward the upper body. This is a very common sight once the beading gets old.



What will you need for the job:

I used the following tools: A long thin screw driver, a short thin screw driver, angled Phillips screw driver, a 1/4 inch ratchet wrench with a 10mm socket.



I also needed adhesive remover, wax and grease remover, a couple of polishes, and I used my 2000rpm polisher but you don’t have to have one of those. You’ll also need some polishing towels.



Parts:

The seals are part numbers

944 559 271 00 01C front MSRP on 1/08, $19.47

944 559 272 00 01C front MSRP on 1/08, $19.47

944 559 273 00 01C rear MSRP on 1/08, $34.50

944 559 274 00 01C rear MSRP on 1/08, $34.50



The clips (optional, if you don’t break any):

999 591 991 40 push in clip about $2 each

999 591 990 00 bolt on clip about $4 each



Stone guards (optional):

944 559 321 00 3YK – left MSRP on 1/08, $33.60

944 559 322 00 3YK - right MSRP on 1/08, $33.60



Let’s start with the rear cladding. Remove the 6 lower bolts using the 10mm socket. Keep note that the bolt farthest to the rear is different the others. You can tell by the bolt head, it doesn’t have a raised edge. Remove the nut found in the rear wheelhouse holding the placement bracket. Pull the bracket off and put it aside.



Now move to the front cladding. Remove the single bolt from the bottom of the cladding using the 10mm socket. Then remove the plastic access plate from the front wheelhouse by removing the two Phillips screws. Turning the wheel makes access easier. Once removed, use the 10mm short socket to remove the bolt that is holding the front cladding in place. There is another placement bracket here. Put it aside along with the bolt.



Now the fun part, removing the clips from the body. The secret here is to get behind the clip and turn your screwdriver to push the clip out. The long thin flat head screwdriver works best here. Start at the rear and move forward. Go slow. I still broke one clip. Note that the clips toward the rear have the pin section trimmed off. You need to make sure these clips go back into the same location as there is not enough depth in the hole for the pin. If you try to put a clip with a full pin in there it will break. It needs the trimmed one. Once the cladding is off use the screwdriver to get the clips out of the cladding. This way you won’t break them while cleaning the cladding up.



The cladding is filthy. Take some carwash and wash off the cladding, both front and rear, and the body of the car.



I choose to replace my stone guards. These come off with the application of heat. Then you’ll need to get the adhesive off. Once everything is clean I used my polishing wheel and clean the side of the body. Then, pull the stone guards off of their backing and cover the sticky part with a soapy-water solution. Then apply to the body and position to the right location. Use a plastic edge to squeeze the soapy water solution out to the sides.



Back to the cladding, after removing the old cladding you’ll need to clean out the slots where the new cladding will be installed. Use the adhesive cleaner and some sandpaper to make sure the slots are good and clean.



I used a wax and grease remover to clean all the mess off. Then polished the cladding with various hand polishers and finally the polishing wheel. There were a number of small cuts in the paint. I purchased a pint of enamel paint for touch and went to work. The nice thing about a solid color is that touch up looks great.



After the cladding is all cleaned and the touchup paint has dried it is time to attach the new beading. I used 3M weatherstrip adhesive. You apply it to both surfaces and let it get tacky, then press together. Do not pull the beading as you place it in the cladding. You want a relaxed fit so that it won’t put out again in a year. Just go slow and push it down



I used some clamps for the front cladding. There is a slot so you’ll know it has to be installed in just the right location. The extra beading in the front wraps around so you don’t need to trim it.



For the rear cladding start at the back and work forward. You’ll have to trim off a small section of beading when you get to the front of the rear cladding. Again, don’t stretch it forward. Just push it straight down into the slot. After the weatherstrip adhesive has dried you can clan any excess off using the adhesive remover.



As for the hardware, I cleaned the bolts and a couple of washers with a wire wheel and then painted them with clear paint. I painted the positioning brackets black. A few of my washers came off from the cladding. I reinstalled them using gorilla glue.



After allowing the beading to dry turn the cladding pieces over and re-install the clips. Remember to put the trimmed pin clips in the correct location toward the rear. You’re ready to install.



Start with the front cladding. Install the piece by pressing in the 1 clip, then follow by attaching the nut to the bolt. Make sure your positioning bracket is in the place you took it off and holding the extra beading piece that is wrapping around the corner down tight. Hold the cladding tight to the body as you tighten down the nut. Not too tight, it’s a plastic nut. Now install the one bolt on the bottom.



Move to the rear cladding. Move all the clips into position first making sure the rear cladding fits into the grove of the front cladding. Once everything is in position start to press the clips into their spots moving from the rear to the front. Install the positioning bracket in the rear wheelhouse and tighten down the plastic nut. Push the cladding toward the body of the car to get as tight a seal as possible. Once you’re happy with the way things look install the 6 bolts along the bottom of the cladding. Make sure that special bolt is at the rear.



So, here’s the result. Looks a lot better then when I started. The job is pretty straight forward and doesn’t cost a lot of money.
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out of curiosity, what was the total damage to the wallet for the new clips and the rubber piece?
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#3

Great write-up Jeff.



I did mine last summer and it was quite easy. But plan ahead and buy some clips. They're old and will break on disassembly.



Not to step you your toes, Jeff, but for the sake of comparison the prices I paid last summer were:



large moldings - $15.68 each

small moldings - $7.60 each

clips - $1.14 each



Tom
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if you use a door panel clip tool, instead of a screwdriver, all of that problem goes away
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[quote name='flash' post='45568' date='Jan 11 2008, 01:55 PM']if you use a door panel clip tool, instead of a screwdriver, all of that problem goes away[/quote]



I don't know, I found that the clips were too tight between the spacing to get the door panel removal tool behind the clip. The long thin screwdriver can get in behind the clip without pulling the cladding away from the body to the point where you might break the clip. But, Like i said, feel free to try your own approach. i just posted the process that worked for me.
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you trying it from the front or the rear?
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#7

[quote name='gryphon' post='45565' date='Jan 11 2008, 01:08 PM']Great write-up Jeff.



I did mine last summer and it was quite easy. But plan ahead and buy some clips. They're old and will break on disassembly.



Not to step you your toes, Jeff, but for the sake of comparison the prices I paid last summer were:



large moldings - $15.68 each

small moldings - $7.60 each

clips - $1.14 each



Tom[/quote]



Tom,

Thanks, I just checked with Porsche and the retail prices for the rubber moldings as of today are $19.47 for the front pieces, $34.50 for the rear pieces, and $33.60 for the stone guards. You get a nice discount.

Jeff
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[quote name='jeff968' post='45578' date='Jan 11 2008, 02:20 PM']Tom,

Thanks, I just checked with Porsche and the retail prices for the rubber moldings as of today are $19.47 for the front pieces, $34.50 for the rear pieces, and $33.60 for the stone guards. You get a nice discount.

Jeff[/quote]



Yes, I do Jeff. Roger Penske and I are like two peas in a pod. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/laugh.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



Tom
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Jeff,



Great writeup! It's always easy to overlook the "small" things that work or don't work when you try them. You seem to have it all together.



I have one very stupid question. I just purchased a 93 coupe, and when I was doing my pre-buy inspection, I found some "scrape damage to the long section of the rocker cladding below the door. There are scratchs in the paint, and the cladding is bulged out from the body in several places. Since the cladding "appears" to be plastic, how would you approach a repair here? Or (the stupid question) is cladding sheet metal? If it is sheet metal, I know how to approach the repair.



Thanks.



Ernie
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#10

Great write up!

Thanks for sharing.
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[quote name='jeff968' post='45539' date='Jan 10 2008, 11:03 PM']A common and simple wear-oriented project for the 968 is the replacement of the rubber seals or beading on the lower side body cladding. These seals become hard and brittle over time and because of the flowing curves of the 968 body cladding, will work their way out from behind the cladding. This results in an unsightly gap. I have done this job before but, with the purchase of my new cab, found the need to do the job a second time so I thought I would document my process. I’m sure there are variations on how to do this and I invite others to contribute their “tricks” to getting this job completed. You can see in the photo below where the beading comes apart from the cladding as it turns up toward the upper body. This is a very common sight once the beading gets old.



What will you need for the job:

I used the following tools: A long thin screw driver, a short thin screw driver, angled Phillips screw driver, a 1/4 inch ratchet wrench with a 10mm socket.



I also needed adhesive remover, wax and grease remover, a couple of polishes, and I used my 2000rpm polisher but you don’t have to have one of those. You’ll also need some polishing towels.



Parts:

The seals are part numbers

944 559 271 00 01C front MSRP on 1/08, $19.47

944 559 272 00 01C front MSRP on 1/08, $19.47

944 559 273 00 01C rear MSRP on 1/08, $34.50

944 559 274 00 01C rear MSRP on 1/08, $34.50



The clips (optional, if you don’t break any):

999 591 991 40 push in clip about $2 each

999 591 990 00 bolt on clip about $4 each



Stone guards (optional):

944 559 321 00 3YK – left MSRP on 1/08, $33.60

944 559 322 00 3YK - right MSRP on 1/08, $33.60



Let’s start with the rear cladding. Remove the 6 lower bolts using the 10mm socket. Keep note that the bolt farthest to the rear is different the others. You can tell by the bolt head, it doesn’t have a raised edge. Remove the nut found in the rear wheelhouse holding the placement bracket. Pull the bracket off and put it aside.



Now move to the front cladding. Remove the single bolt from the bottom of the cladding using the 10mm socket. Then remove the plastic access plate from the front wheelhouse by removing the two Phillips screws. Turning the wheel makes access easier. Once removed, use the 10mm short socket to remove the bolt that is holding the front cladding in place. There is another placement bracket here. Put it aside along with the bolt.



Now the fun part, removing the clips from the body. The secret here is to get behind the clip and turn your screwdriver to push the clip out. The long thin flat head screwdriver works best here. Start at the rear and move forward. Go slow. I still broke one clip. Note that the clips toward the rear have the pin section trimmed off. You need to make sure these clips go back into the same location as there is not enough depth in the hole for the pin. If you try to put a clip with a full pin in there it will break. It needs the trimmed one. Once the cladding is off use the screwdriver to get the clips out of the cladding. This way you won’t break them while cleaning the cladding up.



The cladding is filthy. Take some carwash and wash off the cladding, both front and rear, and the body of the car.



I choose to replace my stone guards. These come off with the application of heat. Then you’ll need to get the adhesive off. Once everything is clean I used my polishing wheel and clean the side of the body. Then, pull the stone guards off of their backing and cover the sticky part with a soapy-water solution. Then apply to the body and position to the right location. Use a plastic edge to squeeze the soapy water solution out to the sides.



Back to the cladding, after removing the old cladding you’ll need to clean out the slots where the new cladding will be installed. Use the adhesive cleaner and some sandpaper to make sure the slots are good and clean.



I used a wax and grease remover to clean all the mess off. Then polished the cladding with various hand polishers and finally the polishing wheel. There were a number of small cuts in the paint. I purchased a pint of enamel paint for touch and went to work. The nice thing about a solid color is that touch up looks great.



After the cladding is all cleaned and the touchup paint has dried it is time to attach the new beading. I used 3M weatherstrip adhesive. You apply it to both surfaces and let it get tacky, then press together. Do not pull the beading as you place it in the cladding. You want a relaxed fit so that it won’t put out again in a year. Just go slow and push it down



I used some clamps for the front cladding. There is a slot so you’ll know it has to be installed in just the right location. The extra beading in the front wraps around so you don’t need to trim it.



For the rear cladding start at the back and work forward. You’ll have to trim off a small section of beading when you get to the front of the rear cladding. Again, don’t stretch it forward. Just push it straight down into the slot. After the weatherstrip adhesive has dried you can clan any excess off using the adhesive remover.



As for the hardware, I cleaned the bolts and a couple of washers with a wire wheel and then painted them with clear paint. I painted the positioning brackets black. A few of my washers came off from the cladding. I reinstalled them using gorilla glue.



After allowing the beading to dry turn the cladding pieces over and re-install the clips. Remember to put the trimmed pin clips in the correct location toward the rear. You’re ready to install.



Start with the front cladding. Install the piece by pressing in the 1 clip, then follow by attaching the nut to the bolt. Make sure your positioning bracket is in the place you took it off and holding the extra beading piece that is wrapping around the corner down tight. Hold the cladding tight to the body as you tighten down the nut. Not too tight, it’s a plastic nut. Now install the one bolt on the bottom.



Move to the rear cladding. Move all the clips into position first making sure the rear cladding fits into the grove of the front cladding. Once everything is in position start to press the clips into their spots moving from the rear to the front. Install the positioning bracket in the rear wheelhouse and tighten down the plastic nut. Push the cladding toward the body of the car to get as tight a seal as possible. Once you’re happy with the way things look install the 6 bolts along the bottom of the cladding. Make sure that special bolt is at the rear.



So, here’s the result. Looks a lot better then when I started. The job is pretty straight forward and doesn’t cost a lot of money.[/quote]



Jeff PEASE come to Dallas and fix mine....lol...great job...an item for sure that frustrates many
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[quote name='jeff968' post='45539' date='Jan 11 2008, 06:03 AM']Note that the clips toward the rear have the pin section trimmed off. You need to make sure these clips go back into the same location as there is not enough depth in the hole for the pin. If you try to put a clip with a full pin in there it will break. It needs the trimmed one.[/quote]



Jeff, do you mean the last two clips on each side should have the pins trimmed off? When I did mine I replaced most of the clips but did not trim any. However on one side the cladding shows a wider gap near the curve which I contributed to the cladding being warped, but maybe I need to trim those clips



Jaap
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I did mine last year and found that without all of the clips in place the gaps were noticeably different. Fortuntely the clips are quite cheap.



Tom
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Yes, great write-up. Thanks.



My beading looks exactly like your "before" photos, but since my car is gray, it's not really all that noticeable, thank goodness. It sure made a nice improvement on your car, though!



Unlike SpeedRacer64, I would never dream of being so crass as to ask you to come over to do mine, but would you mind taking care of my kids for a few hours while I do the job? <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> The 11-year-old is really into ice skating, so four hours or so at the rink will do the trick with her <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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[quote name='jaap' post='48112' date='Feb 24 2008, 12:32 PM']Jeff, do you mean the last two clips on each side should have the pins trimmed off? When I did mine I replaced most of the clips but did not trim any. However on one side the cladding shows a wider gap near the curve which I contributed to the cladding being warped, but maybe I need to trim those clips



Jaap[/quote]



Jaap,

Take a look at the third picture, do you see the way the end of the clip is not quite as long as the others? It is like that on purpose. I put a new clip in the spot during installation and when i pushed it in it broke. i used an awl and found that the hole was not as deep in these locations. It needed to have the trimed end clip but back there. This could be something weird because my car is early. I don't know.

Jeff







[quote name='earossi' post='48094' date='Feb 24 2008, 09:50 AM']Jeff,



Great writeup! It's always easy to overlook the "small" things that work or don't work when you try them. You seem to have it all together.



I have one very stupid question. I just purchased a 93 coupe, and when I was doing my pre-buy inspection, I found some "scrape damage to the long section of the rocker cladding below the door. There are scratchs in the paint, and the cladding is bulged out from the body in several places. Since the cladding "appears" to be plastic, how would you approach a repair here? Or (the stupid question) is cladding sheet metal? If it is sheet metal, I know how to approach the repair.



Thanks.



Ernie[/quote]



Ernie,

The cladding is some type of poly rubber. Depending on how low the scrape is and the color of your car i would just touch it up. Mine came our fine but the mint green is an easy color to touch up, matches nicely.

Jeff
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Jeff.





I believe that there are two different grommets involved:



999 702 160 40 and

999 702 202 50



I don't remember which is which now, but I think one was deeper than the other.



Tom
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[quote name='gryphon' post='48160' date='Feb 25 2008, 01:28 PM']Jeff.

I believe that there are two different grommets involved:



999 702 160 40 and

999 702 202 50



I don't remember which is which now, but I think one was deeper than the other.



Tom[/quote]



Interesting, especially since they don't offer two clip numbers. You have to know to trim the rear ones otherwise you'll keep breaking them.
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Hey rd ...what color you got there...Cobalt?
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RDhay: looks like the body shop forgot the little rubber grommets that are placed into the body before the nylon clips.......
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#20

Reading this topic decide me to do this job aswell.

After 15 years it is a good cosmetic option. The price for this cosmetic surgeon is low and the effects great.

I'm satisfied about the result!
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