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Engine mounts(Manual and tiptronic difference)
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Hello I am new to the forum <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/rolleyes.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> ,I have just purchase a 1993 968 with tiptronic gearbox,just brought some upgrades for my car which are the yellow set of koni and clear corner light sets and now my car are having a full repaint,while in the middle of the job my work shop ask me to order a set of new engine mounts actually what is the difference between the manual to the tiptronic gearbox engine mounts?can i use the the manual engine mounts for my car?



Many thanks <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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Eddie,



Welcome, sounds like you have some modifications planned.



The motor mounts are definitely different for the 2 different transmissions. Do not use the mounts for the manual on a tiptronic car! Here is a thread that discusses changing motor mounts and couple of comments about the differences. http://www.968forums.com/index.php?showtopic=6397. The previous owner of my car had the engine mounts (tiptronic) replaced, and the shop put in the mounts for the manual transmission. They had to go back and replace them with the mounts that are correct for the tiptronic car.



Do some searches here on the forum and you will probably see other discussions about the subject.



Also, make sure to take some pics and put them up on the showroom section of the forum, I'm sure everyone would like to see your new 968.



Roland
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Welcome to the forums, Eddie! Cheers!
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I have had manual engine mounts in my tip for 3 years now and have had no problem whatsoever. I figured it is the same engine up front, the tranny has its own mounts so I didn't bother to spend the extra cash. Can't see why they would have to be any beefier. Roland what kind of problems were you getting from the other mounts?
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[quote name='raydog' post='63109' date='Nov 14 2008, 04:33 PM']Roland what kind of problems were you getting from the other mounts?[/quote]

It actually happened while I was "inspecting" the car while I considered purchasing it. If I remember the history correctly, the PO had some work done on the car, and had something like 2-3 larger repair bills in the prior months, and I think that was one of the reasons he decided to sell. So when I went for a test drive, it had just come from the shop with new engine mounts. I noticed a shaking, or rumbling, almost like it was running rough or missing, but it wasn't. I seem to recall there was almost a binding effect in the drivetrain, as if this weren't lined up correctly. Just some type of shaking at idle. So I told the PO that this wasn't right, that something is wrong. He said he would take it back to the shop, and the result was they replaced the engine mounts with the part for the Tip car. When I went back for the "real" test drive this symptom was gone. So I can't even say 100% for sure, maybe they found some other problem that was the real source, maybe the alignment is sensitive so that this symptom only appears on some cars. Wish I knew more about it, but the reason I expressed caution is this symptom of binding/shaking that I thought I felt in the drivetrain at idle.



Other than drivetrain alignment issues, the only thing I can think of is the torque converter. Perhaps with this part, at idle, the torque converter is (in a way) sending backward torque to the engine (like a braking effect on the torque tube at idle). So the engine is trying to turn normally and because of the torque converter there is some "back pressure" (rotational force) contradicting the rotational direction that the engine would like to turn, and perhaps this means additional forces on the engine mounts (I am making this up and throw it out there for discussion!).



And come to think of it, when I release the brake, the car moves ahead fairly well. I wonder if Porsche uses a more aggressive torque converter compared to other cars to enhance performance (compared to the '63 Pontiac I once had). If it is an aggressive torque converter I can see that maybe it causes more force on the motor mounts. Maybe that is why they are more heavy duty motor mounts (again, a guess...)



Roland
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In my case, when I bought my car approx. 5 years ago, there was always a vibration at idle... nothing severe but not as smooth as my 944(stick). So that is why i replaced my mounts. Put the new ones in and it is about the same maybe slightly better. Problem is that I have nothing to compare my car to other than my 944. It is rare that i ever see another 968 around here nevermind sit in another one while it is running to see if mine is indeed normal.
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