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Repaint vs loss of value - opinions?
#1

The hood has a spider web like effect under the first layer of the clearcoat. I really need to have the hood repainted, They will strip the hood down and repaint so it will look original. The rest of the car could stand to be repainted but only because I want it to be better, not because it really needs it. My wife and I really like the new Porsche color Basalt Black and are thinking of having the entire car repainted. What do you think?



Should I repaint the entire car? If so should I do it in the original Black or should I go for the Basalt? What do you think re-painting will do to the value in the future?



P.S. a good friend owns a paint shop, so cost is not an issue.
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Sandi & George

05 Cayenne S Black/Black

06 Mustang GT White/Black

06 Lexus GS430 Black/Black
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#2

Can we get two done? My cab needs a complete repaint, and I don't think I'd have any problem with Basalt! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/wink.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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#3

I have wanted mine basalt too, do it!!!!



you even got a hookup, porsche skimped on the orginal paint jobs, another layer of clear coat and all these cars would still be looking beautiful
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#4

My feeling has always been that a repaint - no matter what color - will slightly degrade the value - but then again, that's only to collectors who may be placing a certain value on "original" paint when looking to purchase a car. That being said, and cost being a non-issue, you may as well go for the full respray with Basalt Black...it is a cool color and is at least a genuine Porsche color. And, while we're piling on, my black 944 needs a complete respray really bad, Basalt's fine with me too! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/rolleyes.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> He wouldn't have to clean the sprayer to switch colors!



- Darryl
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1992 Slate Gray Coupe over Carrera Gray Full Leather interior....1 of 1

2006 Cayenne S Icelandic Silver Titanium Edition

2006 Cayman S Seal Gray over Black
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#5

5k mile car, keep original. Over 50k miles, a repaint won't affect the value any significantly than the mods you install. Basalt Black is very beautiful, but very expensive to aquire. I looked into it as an option for my car.



Wes
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I look at it this way; I can keep the car pristine, never drive it and someone else can enjoy it when I die, or I can enjoy it myself.----- I'm enjoying mine every day I can; that's why I bought it. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/cool.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> Do what makes you enjoy your car; you wont be sorry. Permasmiles go a long way <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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93 968 (My summer car), 06 Jetta (My winter car)

79 924 (Wife's summer car), 02 C230K (Wife's winter car)

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#7

[quote name='968rz' post='28193' date='Nov 21 2006, 10:32 PM']I look at it this way; I can keep the car pristine, never drive it and someone else can enjoy it when I die, or I can enjoy it myself.----- I'm enjoying mine every day I can; that's why I bought it. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/cool.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> Do what makes you enjoy your car; you wont be sorry. Permasmiles go a long way <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />[/quote]



Agreed.



My approach to buying a car is the same as RZ's, for my enjoyment. If you take pride in the fact that its close to original then by all means keep it that way. Schedule an appointment with a professional detailer. The pro's can work wonders with various chemicals. Now if everytime you look at the car you say to yourself, i wish it was basalt. Then the answers obvious.



PS. Am I the only one who has no idea what this basalt looks like? Which car is it currently used on?
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Quote:5k mile car, keep original. Over 50k miles, a repaint won't affect the value



Agree completely. In fact, the spider web paint problems are hurting the value and a complete repaint would probably increase value. The real hurt from paint on ahigher mileage car are the fears of a future owner that it hides shoddy repair or indicates accident damage. If you plan to sell the car someday (and don't we all if it really comes down to it...), document the job with pictures and receipts. That way you can show the reason for the paint and the quality of the work.
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Ralph

2002 Carrera Coupe - Orient Red Metallic

'93 968 Coupe Amazon Green Metallic w/airbox mod (sold 2009)

'89 944 S2 (gone to live in the Midwest)

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#9

rhudeboye - it's been an option on most Porsche's for the last 5 years or so. And an expensive option at that!



I've seen it about 6 times, Cayenne, 911, Boxster, looked great on all!



My description of the color is a highly metallic deep black - looks very ritzy...
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Michael Sorbera

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2002 VW Beetle TDI

2004 Nissan Titan Crew Cab

2004 Cherokee 33ft Travel Trailer

1990 Mercury Grand Marquis

1993 Amazon Green 968 Coupe (sold)

2002 Speed-Yellow Boxster (sold)

1987 Slate Grey 944 Turbo (sold)

1987 Guards Red 944 (first Porsche - sold)
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#10

[quote name='sasilverbullet' post='28205' date='Nov 22 2006, 10:28 AM']rhudeboye - it's been an option on most Porsche's for the last 5 years or so. And an expensive option at that!



I've seen it about 6 times, Cayenne, 911, Boxster, looked great on all!



My description of the color is a highly metallic deep black - looks very ritzy...[/quote]



Chances are I’ve seen it and didn’t know what I was looking at.

Next time I’m at the dealer I’ll check it out.



Thanx
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#11

Thanks to all. I think I will have the entire car repainted. Also good advice I will document the before and after. I'll post pics sometime in January when it is complete.
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Sandi & George

05 Cayenne S Black/Black

06 Mustang GT White/Black

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#12

If you're going to change the factory delivered color, just make sure it's done right. The value will be lost because you changed from the delivered color. I don't think you need to worry about the documentation. Just keep the receipt of who did it.



If you sell the car someday to a restoration nut, they're going to make it just like factory anyway...
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Michael Sorbera

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2002 VW Beetle TDI

2004 Nissan Titan Crew Cab

2004 Cherokee 33ft Travel Trailer

1990 Mercury Grand Marquis

1993 Amazon Green 968 Coupe (sold)

2002 Speed-Yellow Boxster (sold)

1987 Slate Grey 944 Turbo (sold)

1987 Guards Red 944 (first Porsche - sold)
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#13

chaning colors bugs me unless you yank the engine and shoot the engine bay at the same time - i'm picky about the entire car being shot the same color



as for value, that's subjective, like others have said - i wouldn't sweat it unless in was a mothballed car - these cars really have no value, and a clean one, repaint or not, will generally sell for more than a faded original one
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#14

I'll: keep the black engine bay; be delighted with a Basalt Black body; not give a darn about resale; keep driving it more than 20k miles a year; not remove the permanent smile; and let my heirs worry about what to do with it when I'm gone.



Where does the line form?
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#15

agreeing on the fact that our cars ( regretfully, and unjustly ) have such little value, I doubt any reasonable thing you do to it will have a material adverse effect that you might have to worry about..
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#16

Its hard to tell in pics... but here is Basalt Black on a 911



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#17

I'm sure that color is more stunning in person.



Do I spy the nose of an ENZO (to the right)?
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#18

My son has a 997 cabriolet in Basalt Black. It's a metallic black that gives hints of dark grey. Very nice color.
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[quote name='Anchorman' post='28223' date='Nov 23 2006, 09:40 AM']I'll: keep the black engine bay; be delighted with a Basalt Black body; not give a darn about resale; keep driving it more than 20k miles a year; not remove the permanent smile; and let my heirs worry about what to do with it when I'm gone.



Where does the line form?[/quote]



Now you're talking!!!!!! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />
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2002 VW Beetle TDI

2004 Nissan Titan Crew Cab

2004 Cherokee 33ft Travel Trailer

1990 Mercury Grand Marquis

1993 Amazon Green 968 Coupe (sold)

2002 Speed-Yellow Boxster (sold)

1987 Slate Grey 944 Turbo (sold)

1987 Guards Red 944 (first Porsche - sold)
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