[Inkedupfatboy]

Thanks Flash!

I really appreciate the input and everyone's opion.



Back to the other issue, has anyone who has ordered off of tire rack had problems with old date code tires?



Thanks

Ed

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[ds968]

I'd think just calling them and asking to send you the freshest date available would work.. I did that ( with Rennbay ) when ordering my timing & balance belts, and I can't imagine Tire Rack would not be willing to make the exra effort to pick out a fresh set for you.. particularly nowadays when they have competition : places like America's Tires ( aka "Discount tire" ) and probably a few others will match any Tire Rack online price and they will order the most recent date stamp, if you ask them..

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[blau]

I've been doing a good amount of autocross and have the Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Spec's on my car (they fall in the "extreme performance" category on TireRack). They're incredibly grippy, VERY predictable at the limits, and perform almost as well in the wet as they do in the dry. They just released the Direzza Z2 and everything I've heard has been that they're even a significant improvement over the Z1. Bridgestone also has a Potenza RE-11A (note the A, they're the new ones) that I've heard very good things about although they are also new. This category of tire has a bit stiffer sidewall and you may lose a bit of comfort, but it's nowhere near as bad as riding on a set of runflats!



It all depends on your driving habits and if you are looking for the most performance or a blend of performance and comfort...



I know a few guys running the Pilot Super Sports and everyone likes those a lot too...but they are $$$.

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[Cloud9...68]

Seems that the ultra-high performance tire category is undergoing a lot of competitive development at the moment - I keep reading blurbs in Grassroots Motorsports about this manufacturer and that preparing to announce a new offering that's supposed to be a step function improvement over what they currently have, and that a comprehensive tire test is coming soon. However, Grassroots Motorsports tests to focus on REALLY extreme, barely street-legal tires, so this may not be of specific interest to most of the folks here, but one would think that the development taking place at the bleeding edge of tire development will eventually filter down to more livable tires, so there could be some really cool stuff on the horizon.

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[bombfactory]

The Sumi's I just bought from Tire Rack are all around six months old. I didn't know until recently that tires can 'age out', but in fact that's why I got new tires. The old ones had plenty of tread on them, but were five years old and hard as rocks.

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[Inkedupfatboy]

I learned about the tires aging because my neighbor the engineer was telling me about buying tires for his huge RV. He always goes to buy his tires at the warehouse so he can pick the date code he wants because very few RV's actually "Wear out" tread, the tires ages out.



Until then I never knew tires even had a date code. I learn stuff all the time when I keep my mouth shut - lol

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[malickje]

I just had installed Michelin's Pilot Sport A/S Plus two weeks ago and am wholly impressed by their ride quality, quietness and handling in the corners without tire squeal. The extra bit of cost was well worth it compared to other tires I was considering. A respected Porsche aftermarket garage in the area suggested that I have a serious look at the Ventus V12 from Hankook. Although it looks like an aggressive tire, some of the reviews made me feel like it was not up to par with the Michelins. Michelin has a new tire coming out this Spring called the Pilot Sport A/S3 that is interesting on many levels, but I fear that it may be significantly more than I wanted to spend. I'm glad I went with the A/S Plus. Good luck in your choice!

Jeff

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[Inkedupfatboy]

Thanks Jeff. That is one of the tires I am considering. I appreciate your feedback.

Ed

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[Inkedupfatboy]

This tire thing is making me crazy. I think I am going to go with theMichelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus..



The second place winner was the Yokohama but I think I am going to go with the Michelin. I was suprosed that everyone who rated the Primacy (which according to Michelin's site says it handles and stops better) hates them and almost all of them have a note saying Michelin customer support will be calling them - and they are the most expensive on their site.



I am going to call around on the A/S's tomorrow.



Ed

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[flash]

it's all about how and where you drive the car. it rains a total of 15 days a year here. i drive the 968 in 0 of them. the SL550 gets wet a couple of times. the denali gets wet all the time. so, different tires for each car.

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[Chris Vais]

I've been running on Bridgestone SO4 Pole Positions for about a year now. I like them a lot. I get about 30,000K miles per set of tires.

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[Inkedupfatboy]

Thanks - Central Florida here, so no snow (yea!) and we do get wet, but not plannig on being in it unless I get caught. I am looking for a good all around / higher performance tire with good tread wear -(yea, the holy grail) - I have run lots of Michelins, so that I guess is the nuts and bolts, but I have read some good things here about them. I have Yoko's on the Element SC and like them, so...I may change my mind later. I wish they were like shoes and I could try them on.

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[986boxster1998]

I like the Michelin Sport Pilots and have had a few sets on the 968s; good all seasons. I was able to get around in lite snow with no problem and they seemed like a durable tire that got several years of use.

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[JTP]

Third day on my new set of Bridgestone RE970 AS. A great all season tire, handles great while being quiet and comfortable. Excellent traction on wet pavement.



Night and day difference from the Michelin Pilot Sport that were on before.

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[flash]

kind of apples and oranges. an all season against a high performance tire.



this is the problem when we start talking tires. different people look for different things in a tire. for example, i never go in the snow, and rarely even go in the rain. so, i can run summer extreme high performance tires all year around. not everybody can do that.



it would really help if the person looking for tires could define the needs. then we wouldn't be all over the map on recommendations.

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[JTP]

Both tires I mentioned were all season tires so it was a very valid comparison. **Should have been clearer on my tire nomenclature to avoid the confusion.



The Michelin Pilot I had before were all seasons.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?...A%2FS+Plus



The new Bridgestones are also all seasons:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?...e+Position

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[Scott Collins]

When you live in a territory like NJ and drive the car year-round, I have found that two sets are better than one. Really happy with Bridgestone Blizzak from Thanksgiving to St. Patrick's Day. Tread pattern and rubber compound both play a role here. I won't get the Sumitomo HTZ-III tires again for summer when then wear out. Seemed a bit sloppy through corners and they really lose grip when the temp drops below about 50 deg or so. Might look into a Bridgestone product or Michelin. The Michelin's I have on the mini-van are better tires (for what they are) than the Sumitomo's, IMHO.

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[Inkedupfatboy]

I ordered the super sports - I am happy with Michelins on my Ridgeline and so I made the call. There are more brands that I dislike than I can say I have been happy with their product. I will try to give a good review, but considering I have not even driven the car yet, I won't have anything to compare things to. I just hope the vehicle lives up to expectations.

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[flash]

jtp - i didn't know you were talking about the A/S pilot sport, and thought it was just the regular one that most people get, which is in the summer category. i wasn't picking on you though. it was more of a general comment. this kind of stuff is important when it comes to talking about tires. the manufacturers haven't done us any favors by mixing up the names they give the models.

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[JTP]

Flash, no offense taken and I'm not being argumentative either. Just wanted to clear it up, too easy to misinterpret intent through posts.

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