[sbdrivingdotcom]

My Michelins are shot, not by wear but by age. I've narrowed the competition down to the Yokohama Advan Neova AD08 and Michelin Pilot Sport PS2. Since it doesn't rain here much, I don't need wet performance but I would like a bit more treadwear. Any ideas would be much appreciated. Or how about everyone just chime in with what tires you have, how many miles you have on them, the rim they're mounted on and how you feel about them? I'm open to ideas but need to get this figured out in the next couple days as Wheel Enhancement will be re-finishing (for the second time, don't ask) my C2Turbos. Thanks!

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[flash]

the AD08 is brand new, so i don't have any reports on it yet - looks good though - i was just looking at it yesterday as the likely candidate for my car, which is in the same situation

the sumitomo HZRIII looks like the best bang for the buck

the new Kumho is getting really good reviews too

i agree with the idea that wet traction is not a big deal - i don't drive this car in the rain at all - however, given that both your and my tires have aged out, it seems that treadwear is also a non-issue

that just brings us down to dry traction, noise, price, weight, and how wide the tire actually is (since they vary so much brand to brand even within the same size)

you can probably get all the specs and such on those remaining criteria from tire rack

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[sbdrivingdotcom]

Good point about the treadwear. I've perused Tire Rack in depth but I think I'd rather use actual 968 owners' experiences as different cars drive differently on the same tires. FYI, my suspension is entirely stock.

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[flash]

understood - was really more focused on getting widths, weights, and such from tire rack (the objective stuff and not the subjective stuff) - of course experiences from the guys is always a good one to get

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[Fox944]

no experiance with the Yoko's. I am a huge fan of Michelin Tires however. I was running Pilot Sport's (not ps2) on the 968 up untill this spring. Now i'm running Pilot Cup's.

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[Cloud9...68]

I've noticed, both on this and the BMW E90 forum, that Michelins have a very strong, almost religious following. I agree that Michelin makes some outstanding tires, but imho, with a tire like the Sumitomo HTRZIII availabe, the very large amount of extra money spent on PS2's (or any other high end tire, for that matter) is hard to justify. I track my car a lot (or at least used to, before my company instituted what I'm afraid may be permanent pay cuts), and my lap times dropped by well over a second when I replaced my top-rated Goodyear F1 GS D3's with the HTRZIIIs. These tires are nothing short of phenomenal, the best tires I've ever owned, in fact, for around $100 a tire. They have considerably more grip than the Goodyears, and I've found them to have more predictable break-away a the limit. I used to spin A LOT with the Goodyears, but have never come close to losing it with the Sumitomo's, even with the higher cornering speeds they provide.

I didn't notice any difference in noise level compared or ride quality compared to the Goodyears, but I can't say I pay much attention to these factors, as I almost always drive it with the sunroof off, and the roads here in Austin are generally very good. Until I hear of something better coming along, I'm sold on the HTRZIII's.

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[94SilverCab]

I put on Toyo T1Rs last year because I was in a hurry before Hershey. I was always a "Tire Rack" guy. I went to STS and bouught all 4 mounted and balanced for $600 and I have been very satisfied with handling/noise etc. (not enough miles to determine wear).

I definately do not recommend these tires for wet conditions.

Jay

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[rhudeboye]

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I definately do not recommend these tires for wet conditions.

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Thats a great price Jay. What size are they?

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[flash]

cloud - i agree completely - i have never been all that impressed with the michelin - while they are definitely a very quiet and smooth riding tire, and provide very good grip, i always felt that they lacked tenacity at the edge

probably a perfect tire for the M3, which with one exception has never seen the track, and spends most of its road time on los angeles freeways

however, again, it's hard to argue with the price of the sumitomo, and i question the wisdom of a more expensive tire without some indication of better value or need of better performance

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[unknown4u]

If you want a quieter car take the yokohamas. I did and I'm pleased with it. I do use them for street use and fast cornering.
I drove 2 000 miles with them and still satisfied.

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[flash]

do you have the AD08s? i haven't been able to find anybody who has them yet, as they are so new - totally different tread pattern than the AD07 - looks cool - should be quieter - would love to hear from somebody running them

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[94SilverCab]

Rhude,

Standard 16"...

Jay

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[PhilG968]

I have to say thumbs up to the Sumitomo HTR Z III
Just put them on my coupe.
Fronts 225 45 17
Rear 255 40 17
I have a couple of thousand miles on them, really like them.
Excellent value, wonder when the price will go up?

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[RPM]

12k+ on my Sumitomos. Simply awesome. Starting to get just a little noisy, but tread wear is negligible. Unbelievable tire for the price. You could go through 2 sets for the price of PS2s.

And anyhow, 245 Rennlist 993 board readers can't be completely wrong!
Rennlist 993 board: Sumitomo HTR ZIII, any good?

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[Johannvb]

I am running Bridgestone Potenza S-03 Pole Position on all four corners. The tires are a little noisy, but there is nothing like them in the wet. And since I regularly run a 200+ kph on the German autobahn I need the best grip money can buy.

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[flash]

i also have the S0-3 right now - noisy, very heavy, and nasty tramlining in my widths, but they sure do grab - no longer made and looking for a lighter tire

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[porsche]

Jarrod,

I've recently put 1,500 miles on a set of Michelin PS2s; and I highly recommend them for your gorgeous Cobalt Blue Coupe!!!!

As we've discussed, I've been a long time fan of Porsche approved Pirelli P-Zeros (which were the sh!t for a long time).

However, I feel that currently Michelin is offering a superior product to Pirelli.

The PS2s are quiet, comfy and deliver superior performance (for a street car).

Remember to opt for Porsche approved "N" series.


my 2 cents,
Porsche

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[PhilG968]

Also no tramlining in the Sumitomos.

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[flash]

they are indeed tempting - may go that route yet

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[968Oz]

I recently changed to Sumitomo HTRZIII. I can't see any reason to pay more for the driving that I do, which does not include any track time and almost always dry.

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