[scaldwell]

Hi

Has anyone had an opportunity to compare the Infiniti G35/37 Coupe, preferably the AWD version, with our beloved 968? If you have what do you think?

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[wjk_glynn]

Haven't driven a G35 or G37. But as regards acceleration, here's a comparison between the 6-speed 968 Coupe and a 6-speed G35 Coupe:



Karl.

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[Cloud9...68]

I test drove a G35 coupe a few years ago. Very nice car, gobs of torque, and to my eye, the G37 coupe is one of the prettiest cars out there. Not sure it's a very direct comprison to the 968, though. The 968 is much lighter, and much more basic. The G35/37 is more of a luxo coupe, quieter, more plush, more pampering, but very nice, if you like that kind of thing (in a car, anyway [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img] )

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[rhudeboye]

<!--quoteo(post=78957:date=Aug 27 2009, 05:35 PM:name=scaldwell)-->QUOTE (scaldwell @ Aug 27 2009, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Has anyone had an opportunity to compare the Infiniti G35/37 Coupe, preferably the AWD version, with our beloved 968?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I had a nice run over 100mph with one on the parkway. This was pre-chip and I really wasn't sure what the out come was going to be. I had a slight head start ((car and a half) and the G35 couldn't reel me in. Cross the 110 mark and the G started to fall behind. With my RSB chip now installed, I'd love to run against one again.

FWIW- I like the G37. Nice looking car, good grunt and well equipped. Not a big Nissan fan though. The quality falls short.

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[Fox944]

they arnt really competitors. The G37 has become more of a GT...like a 928. Having driven several G37's (Sedans, convertibles, coupes, automatic's, manuals, awd's, rwd's), i can tell you....its a very different car from the 968. its faster (unless your driving my 968 [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img] ), smoother, quieter, bigger, and has a ton of features not avail on the 968. On the downside, it does not offer the same feedback, is not as nimble, turn-in isnt as good, it doesnt look as good imho, and here in nyc...i see 15-20 G's on my way home form work....i'd be lucky if i see 2-3 968's all year.

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[ds968]

I absolutely love the looks of the early models G35, ( a couple of years later they f'd up IMHO ), and now the new G37S turns my head also. I drove the 35, and while the exaust note is very nice , I hated how the engine sounded and the feel of the revvs .. not sure how to explain it but it was weird.. very Nissan.

Stock vs stock, pretty even acceleration vs the 968, as Karl's graph shows, but the 968 does have a tendency to start pulling away from the 35 past 80mph or so..not sure why. Gearing , aerodynamics ? With as litte as a chip in the 968 there is no contest... but then again who knows what a chip might change
in the 35' performance [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif[/img]

I'm guessing the 37S is a pretty heavy car but maybe they added more hp and torque to keep it at 35 performance levels, or even better ?

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[flash]

15-20 Gs - wow - i'm not surprised you see few 968s like that - how do you deal with the unconciousness that usually comes on by 10Gs? autopilot engaged?

lol - clearly i need more coffee

i haven't driven it yet, but it sure looks like a heck of a package

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[rf285]

One of my best friends has a 2009 g37s with a six speed. Great car, but it has the mission of a 928. All the creature comforts, lot of low end grunt, modern tech and reliability (not a 928 strength). I drove it and it is a reallly fun cruiser. I felt it was much faster than my 968. Granted I didn't take it over 60 and my 968 is totally stock. In the handling department there is not comparison, 968 wins hands down. Feedback, nimbleness, simplicity. The g37 is a nice daily driver (his isn't living in New Hampshire with the rwd model.). I like the fact that 968s are rare, you only see them at a gtg. He paid 40k for his last fall, but if I had 40k I would be buying a 996tt as a daily driver. That's me though.

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[ds968]

<!--quoteo(post=79033:date=Aug 28 2009, 10:53 AM:name=rf285)-->QUOTE (rf285 @ Aug 28 2009, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I felt it was much faster than my 968.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Not implying the G37 may not indeed be faster than the 968, but picking up on the how it feels comment as a segway for my experience with this: a former co-worker owned a stock 1974 Corvette, and I have to tell you that when driving it, it FELT much faster than the 968 feels. But we all know that the 968 can tow a 747 behind it and still massacre a '74 Vette. Hell, I could have probably kept up with him in my stock 944 at the time..

Seat of the pants can be incredibly deceiving..

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[Fox944]

Just some food for thought.

Infiniti G37 makes 330HP & weighs 3633lbs. 11.00lbs per HP
Porsche 968 makes 236HP & weighs 3086lbs. 13.08lbs per HP

My 968 makes roughly 285HP. 10.83lbs per HP

Nissan HP is overrated imo & they dont use the best gearing. But either way, thats a big diff. There is no way a stock 968 is as quick as a stock RWD G37 Coupe.

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[rxter]

Thoughts on the 370Z? Same basic layout with a more dedicated mission. I've not driven one yet and would be interested in this group's impressions.

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[flash]

mean looking car

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[Fox944]

<!--quoteo(post=79061:date=Aug 28 2009, 05:00 PM:name=rxter)-->QUOTE (rxter @ Aug 28 2009, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Thoughts on the 370Z? Same basic layout with a more dedicated mission. I've not driven one yet and would be interested in this group's impressions.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


This is from Motor trends "best drivers car 2009" article. The 370Z Nismo makes a claimed 350HP and is track tuned. I'm very surprised at the numbers and expected it to do much better then it did. Especially compared to the less powerfull (on paper) Cayman & BMW 135i (which is not an M vehicle).

(Yes the graph sucks).

here is the article.

http://www.motortrend.com/features/perform..._car/index.html

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[rxter]

That is a brutal presentation. Took me a couple of minutes to figure out they hated the Camaro and loved the Cayman S. And no graph needed to know that before hand... THose numbers are surprising.

BTW if I appear to be posting more than usual today its because I am suffering through required on-line training - not to be attempted alone without taking out the entire first floor of the building, so you guys are keeping me out of jail today....

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[rf285]

<!--quoteo(post=79037:date=Aug 28 2009, 02:39 PM:name=ds968)-->QUOTE (ds968 @ Aug 28 2009, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Not implying the G37 may not indeed be faster than the 968, but picking up on the how it feels comment as a segway for my experience with this: a former co-worker owned a stock 1974 Corvette, and I have to tell you that when driving it, it FELT much faster than the 968 feels. But we all know that the 968 can tow a 747 behind it and still massacre a '74 Vette. Hell, I could have probably kept up with him in my stock 944 at the time..

Seat of the pants can be incredibly deceiving..<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


That is true. I had a basically stock '86 951 with just a Guru chip with 26/6 turbo. Later I bought an already highly modded 951 which I added a Vitesse Stage III turbo to. The highly modded car felt slower than the 26/6 even though it had almost 100 whp more. It's about the torque hit I suppose.

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[flash]

there are a lot of factors that affect the seat of the pants sensation - suspension stiffness is a big one - the stiffer the car, the slower it feels - same thing with flywheel weight - the lighter the flywheel, the slower it feels

the gauges don't lie though

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[ds968]

I wonder how the 968 would have fared in that test - No doubt dead last in almost all categories, except on the
fun to drive category, where it might have placed in the number four spot ? What do you guys think ?

Also,
<!--quoteo(post=79046:date=Aug 28 2009, 12:15 PM:name=Fox944)-->QUOTE (Fox944 @ Aug 28 2009, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Just some food for thought.
Infiniti G37 makes 330HP & weighs 3633lbs. 11.00lbs per HP<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

A pre-2007 M3 cab also has 330hp and roughly 3600 lbs, yet the dynamics of where and how that 330hp is attained
brings it down in top end performance ( beyond 60 mph, and all the way into the triple digits ) to a point where it will have some difficulty trying to outrun a 968 coupe... even with a s-load extra torque.

Betting your car with 285 HP might even give a same generation M3 COUPE ( with an auto trans ) a respectable
run for its money in the 80 - 150mph range [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif[/img]

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[flash]

i can confirm that to be the case

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[Fox944]

<!--quoteo(post=79080:date=Aug 28 2009, 07:53 PM:name=ds968)-->QUOTE (ds968 @ Aug 28 2009, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Betting your car with 285 HP might even give a same generation M3 COUPE ( with an auto trans ) a respectable
run for its money in the 80 - 150mph range [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif[/img]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


My buddy owns an E46 M3. I think its an '04 iirc. 6-Speed. Havnt had a chance to get on the freeway with him for a quick spirited run.

But based on magazine #'s a 6-spd M3 is significantly quicker then a 330HP 6-Speed G37. M3's are about as quick as 335i's according to magazine's. a few tests btwn the 335i & G37 showed the 335i to accel significantly quicker then a G37.

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[flash]

that's just wacky - less power but less time than the M3 - wow - wouldn't have believed it had i not seen it on paper - i've run against a couple of the 335s in my M3 ragtop (albeit from a rolling start) and beaten them soundly - perhaps i'll not try that again, as it seems it was the driver and not the car

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