[Rap]

Progressive pricing! There doesn’t need to be an explanation for it. Read Alice in Wonderland.

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[ds968]

Must be the new gluten-free gas. ;-). We get rewarded here in Ca for that . Also, it s organically refined, sustainable, fair-trade sourced, hemp-infused , echo-friendly octane . And the gas station pumps handles are coated with kale .


I did read Alice in Wonderland ( or, as better known to most of the population : The Bible ) . Great childrens ( and red states ) book. Fun stuff.

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[ds968]

Meanwhile, this week in Los Angeles ..

 

   

 

 

Are we catching up with our friends across the pond yet ? 

 

 

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[Waylander]

Getting closer, currently £1.38 / litre for super unleaded, at 4.52 litres per Uk gallon

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[Rap]

Perhaps Ca. Is raising gas prices to encourage people to leave the state.

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[94SilverCab]

I think I once paid $5/Gal for Premium...but it was in the 968, so that's "entertainment" budget, not "transportation"...

 

Jay

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[ds968]

I once had a 70 ‘cuda 440 six pack , and a 73 Olds 98 455 ..if I had to drive either of those cars today at $ 5 / gallon , I’d have to get a second job just to afford leaving my driveway to make it as far as the corner gas station. 

 

Funny about incentives to leave California .. the media loves to report how many people leave the state to move ( mostly to retire )  in much more affordable states , but suspiciously manage to hide the fact that for every single person leaving there are a dozen climbing all over themselves to move here .  Just look what’s happening with any single house that goes on the market in this state :  multiple offers and bidding wars way over the listing price with a few days of going on the market .. the last one making the news was a two bedroom “shack” with a listed price of 1.2 M, which sold for  $ 2.2 M  after 29 offers came in within the week it was listed .  Fortunately, out of those dozen waiting to move to this state only one or so can afford to live in this absurdly high cost environment, otherwise the population would explode even more so than it already is ... $ 5 gas won’t compel anyone to move..just add an undue financial burden to already stretched budgets .  

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[Chris Vais]

Our gas prices here in Oregon are just a little more than 1/2 of the going rate in CA. We are currently searching for a house to buy, but there is a rush on housing here fueled by cheap money and an overall lack of inventory. New construction has not kept pace with demand. 

 

With climate change the Pacific Northwest, the Northeast, and upper midwest/Great Lakes areas will be increasingly more popular places to retire. A warming client will moderate the colder winters somewhat and there will still be abundant water.

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[Rap]

Low inventory raises prices and bidding wars. Zoning regulates the number of units built. Lack of workers slows the build process. There are a lot of factors here that are all influencing what is occurring in our housing market. Dan I’m sure your newspapers report more info regarding influxes into the state. I wonder why more national news orgs don’t? Oh right, the truth doesn’t fit the narrative. Sound familiar? Ca has always had higher gas prices. It is an accepted way of life. Californians like to pay higher prices for gas. Everyone knows this. Californians like lots of regulation. Everyone knows this. If you stop while walking down the street you get taxed or run afoul of a regulation. Everyone knows this. All the people moving to California like taxes and regulation. 

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[ds968]

Hogwash.   No one “likes” over regulation, high taxes, absurd real estate prices, or expensive gas ..( unless you meant that sarcastically..)..they simply tolerate that as a subjectivity of living where they choose to , and want to live , in spite of having so many other choices in so many other states .   It’s well worth the sacrifice .    But back to gas prices;  one of our local news sources suggested the Suez Canal fiasco which has impacted our gas prices .  Hmm, California is the 3rd largest producer of crude oil in the U.S.  ( behind 1. Texas , and 2. Alaska ) , 

I had no idea the supplemental oil which we may buy from those two states gets here through the Suez Canal .. <_<

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[Chris Vais]

One of the factors that influences gas prices, not just in California but the entire west coast is that there are pipelines that transport gasoline into the west coast states. All of the gasoline we consume is produced here. No competition equals higher prices. I have no idea why there are no gasoline pipelines into California other than it is an oil producing state without the need to import fuel from out of state.

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[Rap]

Hogwash. Hmm interesting term and yes you surmised my comment correctly. Aren’t some of those higher prices taxes?

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[ds968]

Yes, a good portion of the price is tax, and I was under the impression Ca. has the highest tax on gas, but I just looked up to see how other states rank , and you’ll probably laugh at this but this year ( 2021 data ) Pa has us beat .. 

 

The Gas Tax by state ranges from $0.0895 in Alaska to $0.586 in Pennsylvania. 

<p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);">The five states with the highest gas taxes are:

1. Pennsylvania - $0.586
   
2. California - $0.533
   
3. Washington - $0.519952
   
4. New Jersey - $0.414
   
5. New York - $0.4045
   

 

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[Rap]

Interesting how prices vary. Gas here can be found for $2.85 for regular branded gas. Price disparities seem more prevalent than I recall. Going to NJ used to get you cheaper gas, not now. The new race car I just picked up is tuned to 100% octane, which I didn’t know when I bought it. It will be interesting to see what the per gallon costs and weekend costs skyrocket to.


Are thes all Democratic states?


These

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[Roboman]

But back to the original question .... it would appear you have overtaken the pump prices in this part of France.  Our village station sells 98oct at Euro 1.55/Ltr, so US$ 5.87, naturally it is cheaper at the supermarket but I prefer to put my money into our community.

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[ds968]

Now I have to drive by the only station around these parts which has 100 octane ( well, had ..not sure if they still carry it ) to see what they charge nowadays .. I’ll try to call them, but gas stations around here which have no service / garage , are notorious for not answering the phone .   Haven’t used 100 octane in many , many years ( it was in the pre-supercharger days ) I used to mix in 5 gallons of that to the rest of the full tank with 91 octane.  I recall it made a little difference, but very slight and could have been more of a placebo effect that real gain ..I think at least the exhaust note was more pronounced . 

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[Roboman]

So what octane are regular, plus, and suprême ?

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[ds968]

In Ca it’s  87, 89, 91 .     Nothing else available*  except at maybe one out of a hundred stations where you can buy 100 .  * At race tracks I believe you can buy higher octane , 105 and 109 , but they won’t sell it to you if you have a “ regular “ car you’re tracking there and then take it out on the street.  It must be a race car.   

 

Called the gas station , no answer .. but it’s Sunday so maybe it’s not attended at all on Sundays.   However, I then called a gas station in Los Angeles who listed 100 octane as one of their grades,    $ 11.99 / gal. 

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[Chris Vais]

Back in the day when I was stationed on the East Coast one could by Sunoco 240 which I believe was 104 octane. In the early 70's it sold about $0.25 a gallon. I had a 1968 Camero Z-28, homologation special, that loved that stuff. One scary fast car.

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[94SilverCab]

I run 93 Octane in PA (Sunoco)

 

Jay

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