[montauk1989]

I found a nice 1995 cab.    It looks like it was always garage kept.   Asking price is about $19k.    Here's a link

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventoryl...=215100035

 

It's got some rock chips up front  and a few scratches but other than that, the body is very nice.   The top looks fairly new with just a bit haze in rear window.   I tried every switch, AC, top, windows, etc. and everything worked.  The only other visual flaw I saw is that the driver's left side bolster has the typical wear.  

 

The only thing that bothered me was a kind of deep rumble at speeds above 30 MPH.   It sounded like it was coming from the back of the car.  I think it could be tire noise.   It's definitely not related to engine RPM.    Any ideas?

 

The car has the original manuals, tool kit and air compressor but no maintenance records.   I'm told that the timing belt is new but no proof.

 

Dave

 

 

 

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[Rap]

Go to Provost Motorsports in Bordentown and have Max do a PPI. This will clear this issue and whatever else might surface.

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[MCL968]

What's the date code on the tires? Anything over five years typically rides like rock on these cars.

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[J.Elenbaas]

I don't know if it's due to the photo's or that it's the real situation.

But there is clearly a colour diference at the rear (bumper/side's - top).

 

Might have had an accident at the rear end?????

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[montauk1989]

I don't know if it's due to the photo's or that it's the real situation.

But there is clearly a colour diference at the rear (bumper/side's - top).

 

Might have had an accident at the rear end?????

I saw that too but it wasn't as obvious in person.   I did pull out the trunk liner and looked for damage but didn't see any.

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[montauk1989]

(I just tried the multi-quote option and it hung up with only two quotes)

 

Regarding the PPI, they won't take the car anywhere but they'll let a mechanic go there and use their shop.   My old 944 mechanic might be able to do that for me.

 

I'll check on the tire date - good idea

 

Thanks all!!

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[Waylander]

red will always show a paint job with a camera, red is the hardest color to match, to many variations in the pigments

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[montauk1989]

I wonder if just the bumper was replaced and painted.    I was looking at the car late in the day with a setting sun so maybe that's why I didn't notice the color difference.

 

Regarding the noise and tires.   I googled that brand of tire on the rears.   Apparently it's a cheapo that's a bit noisy.    The fronts are old and tired. 

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[pdxmike]

That car has 3 different brands of tires! Who would do that on a 968??

 

It's a great looking car but at that asking price, that's just crazy. I would ask the dealer to put some new shoes on, and test drive it again. If the noise is gone, great - if still there, time to walk. JMO.  

 

I would say though - it seems like a huge red flag to me, not to mention that it's going to need belts if there's no proof of when they were done. If the PO couldn't be bothered to at least keep it to 2 tire brands, what else did they skimp on?

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[ds968]

That car has 3 different brands of tires! Who would do that on a 968??

 

It's a great looking car but at that asking price, that's just crazy. I would ask the dealer to put some new shoes on, and test drive it again. If the noise is gone, great - if still there, time to walk. JMO.  

 

I would say though - it seems like a huge red flag to me, not to mention that it's going to need belts if there's no proof of when they were done. If the PO couldn't be bothered to at least keep it to 2 tire brands, what else did they skimp on?

 

 

 I completely agree !! 

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[94SilverCab]

No mention of when belts were changed, take that off the offer price.

 

The hands on the clock should be bright red. Not that it is an issue unto itself, but that car has been a lot more exposed than the pain would lead you to believe.

 

JMO,

 

Jay

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[J.Elenbaas]

Maybe the rear end has been repaired good, but due to an accident the gearbox, rear axle or driveline might have suffered from the impact.

The odd paint job is not only one picture, but on most of the pictures.

 

Also the paint around the emblem on the bonnet looks a bit wasted.

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[Inkedupfatboy]

My cars nicer for the price and less miles and has been completely gone through - everything's been done.

1994 cab - under 50K miles - everything taken care of all it needs is tires as they are 5 years old this year, but don't have 6K miles on them.

porsche968floridaforsale@nym.hush.com -

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[Rap]

Yea but the color.

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[Inkedupfatboy]

What color do you want it? For an extra $20 I will go to Sherwin Williams and get a gallon of paint and a roller and make it any color you want.

 

I can't tell you how many people I have talked to about this, and no one understands that the days of a cheap, sorted Porsche are over. I can't imagine there are too many sub 50K mileage cars out there for sale left.

 

If you are lucky enough to find one cheap, you will spend $15K to get it sorted if you can't do the work yourself. That was what I found out AFTER I bought it,

because I had no clue what I got myself into. - New shift knob, one of only 11 cars with chestnut brown interior - $300 from Porsche Germany, they had one left and it took 4 weeks to get it. Just one example.

 

I have watched my mechanic tell person after person the 940 or 914 they bought for $3,000 will take ten, twelve, or even fifteen thousand dollars and a year to make it what you want, and every one of them immediately put the car on craigslist or traded it at a loss at a dealer for something new. That was what I heard, but we felt my car was cherry enough to warrant spending the cash on.

 

No one wants to step up and pay the cash to get one that is drive ready. I could drive this to PA tomorrow and think nothing of it. The noise that I saw described above, well in my mind the first thing I thought of was pinion bearing. I spent just shy of $3K to have mine rebuilt. It took 3 months of emails and calls to find a shop that was up to the job. Even Brumos wouldn't call me back. I found a shop an hour away that did it. I was lucky.

 

This car is solid and ready to go. All I am asking is what I put into it. I am actually losing money on it. I don't have time to drive it, so it sits way too much, but it's not a hardship sale, I don't have to sell it. I just think it needs a new home with someone who will love it. If someone wants German engineering, I have a '66 beetle I can sell them for $5K - Not a 968, but it's in the price range of what people think they can buy my 968 for.

 

Not trying to be sarcastic, but it's tough. The cars I see people buy for what I am asking for my car, is just sad. Well someone will either get a great car, or my kids will sell it after I am dead.

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[Rap]

Having just purchased two vehicles with large multipoint inspections I would disregard that sales spin. PPI done by a 968 knowledgeable mechanic is your best bet.

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[Kim]

I think that Ed has a valid point.  Not to promote the sale of his car, but I think that most cars that are now 23-26 years old are generally going to have "deficiencies" unless they are rather special. Cars owned by members here are likely in that category, but not all cars for sale are owned by our members. For me, colour would be the last thing of any concern - knowing that the vehicle had been properly maintained would be far more important. Wanting, say a red car, just limits the number of choices that you have. Of course, you might get lucky.  Even mileage would be of less importance as, at some point, most wear items would have been replaced anyway and I would be very worried about too much being "original". Every year there are fewer cars and all have more mileage and wear than the year before. 

 

Having Max look at the car might be the best thing that you could do.  I brought my car to him (and Pete) from Nova Scotia about 7 years ago and I was flabbergasted at how much that guy knew about how these cars are screwed together.  You may just need to buy it first!  

 

So my exceedingly humble advice is to either pay now for a good car or pay later to make a good car. Remember that repairs you make now are paid for in real dollars.  Repairs made previously by others are bought in depreciated dollars. And each year option 2 will be more likely to be the way you will need to go. Cars are getting older and fewer. The old adage is to buy the best car that you can afford. 

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[Inkedupfatboy]

It's the way it is. People say they want something, until they see the price tag, then they balk. Yes, 20K sounds like a lot for a 20 year old car if you don't get what the car is. I have seen a lot of used cars go for a lot more and they weren't Porsche's.

 

I have seen it again and again, that folks think they will be the one to score that 5K barn find and drive off into the sunset. Well I thought I had found that cheap Porsche that I could put a few bucks into - Yes I was naive. I never thought that I would be looking at nearly 15K in getting this car back to where it needed to be and where it deserved to be. (but if you come here to look for a car and actually read the forum, you will know some things, 1. The cars take work, 2 Porsche parts are expensive. 3. nothings free or easy.)

 

I had my car gone over by my mechanic (the best import guy on the space coast - he works on everything from BMW's to Bentley's and Ferrari's and is doing a Honda engine swap into an original cooper now)  -  and we did everything that my car needed. I didn't let anything go. Everything was evaluated, and if anything was questioned it was replaced. I have all the receipts from when the car was purchased by the second owner, including clutch replacement at 30K - It's been gone over and done. I also have kept most of what was taken off the car if something was changed, such as the euro turn signals. It's all there. I have all the receipts and records on everything I have done to the car. If someone comes to look at my car I will take them to my mechanic - Full disclosure. After all, how many cabs are there with a fully working automatic roof? Mine does. It's also only one of 11 cars ever made with a chestnut brown top and interior.

 

It gets frustrating to see people come on this site and wax poetic about how much they want one of these cars, then when I offer mine, I hit a stone wall. When it comes to the wallet, then they shut down. As I said, it's not a hardship sale and at some point I will put it on BAT, or craigslist, or take it to the Turkey Rod Run in Daytona. Or I will just sit on it until all the cars are rusted, raced, wrecked or have such high mileage, that mine will sell for double what I am asking. I am not going to sell it at a huge loss. I still enjoy the car, I just don't have time to enjoy the car. My car is insured by Hagerty for $25K. That's obviously what they feel it's worth. I am asking 20K or best offer. If someone made a respectable offer I might let it happen if the attitude it right. Paul W. has seen my car. He knows what it is.

 

It's a great car, if someone wants to buy my car, they are welcome to email me, but the tire kicker bit is getting old as am I. I just don't have the time or energy for it much anymore. Too many other things to do.

 

Well, have a good time everyone. I have to go open the antique store. I will probably check in again at a later date.  Enjoy.

Ed

 

Added a beauty shot for you.

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[montauk1989]

If it was easy for me to come and look at it, I would because it sounds like you've been a great steward and condition is so important.  Regarding getting a price that's what you put into it, that's a non-starter.    It's worth what someone will pay for it.   If I ever sell my 911, I'll get quite a bit more than I've got into but I got very lucky with that car.  I've lost money on every other car I've owned.

 

 

Anyway, here's what looks like a nice car, also listed for $20k, but it's 3000 miles from here.

 

https://www.stevenscreektoyota.com/inven...65ss840246

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[Inkedupfatboy]

Yea, but the color.

 

It looks good also, but you know the dealer is into it for much less. If they didn't rip someone off, they bought it at an auction and probably are in it for around 5K with a max at 10K

I am just trying to get my costs out of mine.

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