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daryl - maybe the plastic types are indeed the cool ones - i've not had those yet

jamie - lol - it's official - you are now dubbed "MAT-MAN"

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[Jamie '92 968]

Ironic, considering the embarrasing mess that's currently on my floors.

My mats, which are a poor color match, have a hole worn all the way through at the accelerator heal point. I have a cheap rubber mat underneath to prevent more damage to the floor carpet, which shifts daily and hangs out the side in a roll. There are bits of the dried rubber backing flaking off and piling in the corners of the floor... I could go on.

All will be made right soon...

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[jeff968]

"the only concern i would have about the ones in jeff's post would be in the event of the seat being lowered and then running over them when pushed forward - i don't know if they get in the way or not - jeff?"

Bob,
No problems. I think they are the best design. Similar to what I have I my new cars today.
Maybe they are out there. We'll have to keep looking. I did not have that style on my old cab, just Minty. The holding brackets are still available new from Porsche.
Jeff

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[Mark]

This is the Lloyds fastening system

they also have snap a mat

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[968TDG]

Yep, that's the set up I want. The straps are a pain and work poorly. This is so much cleaner and more positive.

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[biotechee]

I got the bulk rubber material from the following gentleman:

http://www.customfloormats.com/

I am sure other places have it though- pretty standard rubber floor mat material. I believe Weathertech has the same stuff, but there was no way I was calling them back after the issue with the molded mats not fitting.

It is available in black, tan and grey. If you do want to go this route, you have to call him or email him and ask for the bulk material - I believe the minimum you could order was a 4' x 4' section, which is what I ordered. Was less than or equal to $80 shipped last year. Make sure you have a good set of utility shears- the stuff is thick and difficult to cut. And so far, it has stayed in place and I won't ever go back to carpet!!!

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[Jamie '92 968]

Jim,
Thanks! Just what we needed. I'm tempted to go carpetless. Maybe I'll get both and switch between winter and summer. My wife's Explorer came with both carpet and rubber mats and that works well.

Mark,
Also thanks! So Lloyds mats come with a few different mounting options.
I wonder how well the screw-in posts will hold in the sub-carpet. Also, whether you would need to cut a hole in the carpet to make them stay.
Do the holes in the mats line up with the seat rails? If so, we may have the perfect sopution which is to use Jeff's "active fastening system" posts along with the Lloyds "Anchor Post" mats.
Of course, the holes need to be the right diameter as well. Do you know how big the holes in the Lloyds mats are?
Also, how far from the back edge of the mat are the holes located?

Jeff,
Based on Mark's picture, do you think the Lloyds mats would work with your posts? Are the holes in the right location longitudinally? What diameeter are the posts?
Also, do you know what the part number is for the posts?

Maybe I'm investing too much into a simple floor mat decision, but then again, I now have a title to live up to...

Jamie

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[Johannvb]

I for one applaud your dedication to this subject. It has been something that's been sitting on my agenda for a while, but I am still sorting out mechanical niggles, so cosmetics are not that high on my list right now.

With all this work you're doing I won't have to do any research [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif[/img]

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[rxter]

Jim's solution looks the best to me. Anyone ever see that stuff in Cashmere?

And now to the existential question. Why are floor mats there in the first place? To protect the carpet. The carpet is there why? Never understood why anyone woudl put carpet in a place that is sure to be covered with water, mud, salt, snow, pine needles, ants, gum, gum wrappers, coffee, chocolate, ice cream, you name it. Seriously, would anyone carpet their garage? Makes no sense. Carpet is an item that allows us to NOT wear our shoes in the house. It's comfy and soft, and a lot nicer on bear feet than plywood. WHat's the first thing mom says when you are about to walk onto the carpet with your shoes on? TAKE OFF YOUR SHOES. Illegal to drive without shoes last time I checked. Maybe if we carpeted the pedals it would be legal.

Going back to work now....

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[Johannvb]

The Porsche 356 used to come with rubber, so did the beetle. I think things evolved to carpet because it is luxurious and it absorbs sound.

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[Mark]

To the best of my knowledge it is not illegal to drive without shoes in any state, a very old urban legend according to several police officers I have asked in the past. Actually it's safer to drive barefoot than wearing flip flops or other similar footwear.

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[Velocity]

According to Darryl, the Lloyds mats have a plastic clip on a strap from the mat that connects to a mating clip on a strap that clips into the seat rails with a metal spring connector.

 

Reviving an 11 year old thread to ask about floor mat anchor systems.   My 92 came with a set of aftermarket Lloyd's floor mats with a spring clip style anchor as shown below - from what I saw in this thread, this anchor is designed to clip into the seat rail on both sides of the seat to keep the floor mat from shifting forward.

 

   

 

I'm definitely a "picture is worth a thousand words' type of person (visual learner) and for the life of me, can't seem to find a good point/method for this clip to anchor into the seat rail.   Can anyone provide a hint for me?

 

On a related topic -does that brass colored bolt in the front of the seat rail appear stock?   It's ridiculously lose on both seat rails, and doesn't seem to fit any allen wrench I have (possibly stripped head).    Seat appears to be mounted well (ie, no wobble, etc), but that bolt just feels "out of place".

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[Velocity]

OK, I should of spent a bit more time puzzling over it before posting.   Solution below (for anyone else who runs into this issue) - was a bit awkward to get clips in place due to the bolt being loose and higher than normal, but it seems to be holding..     Alternative solution (if this doesn't hold) is to apply some adhesive velcro to the bottom of the floor mat and on plastic area of carpet near pedals.

 

   

 

 

Regarding the seat rail bolts - checked other locations on both drivers and passengers seat and bolts appear similar, but better anchored/tightened.     Will order a couple additional ones and try to remove/replace these two.

 

 

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