[Cloud9...68]

Years ago, I disconnected my passenger side airbag and installed a 3 ohm resistor to trick the system into thinking the airbag was still connected. Now, I've removed the airbag module, and I'd like to go ahead and remove the control unit as well. Does anyone know if removing the control unit altogether will trigger the airbag warning light? If so, is there a way to trick the system into thinking everything is still there, when in fact it has all been removed? Thanks.

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[unknown4u]

no idea, try............. and you will know.

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[Cloud9...68]

I'm not willing to take that risk - the last thing I want is to trigger a light that takes a $500 tool to turn off.

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[bowman088]

Yes it will trigger the airbag light. When I first got my car my contol unit decided to stop working and the light came on and couldn't be turned off until the unit was replaced. I'm guessing that just removing it will do pretty much the same thing.

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[Cloud9...68]

I've since learned how to trick the car's electrical system into thinking the ABCU is still connected - you have to jumper the 11 and 12 pins of the blue connector that goes into the ABCU (there are three 12-pin connectors, a blue one, a pink one, and an off-white one). If that doesn't work, I'll report back.

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[gbarrier]

All seems quite complicated. Is my understanding that clipping the yellow/red wire from the control unit disables the output to the light period. Should not matter whether the airbag unit is still active or not. Anyone else done this?

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[9ines]

Jumper pins 3 and 4 after disconnecting the air bag controller (on the car side). this will disable the system and shut down the warning light.

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[Cloud9...68]

The instructions I was given by Ivan of IMA Motorsport are described in post # 5 of this thread. As that post says, there are three 12-pin connectors, one pink, one blue, and one off-white. When you say pins 3 and 4, which of the three connectors are you referring to?

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[9ines]

[quote name='Cloud9...68' timestamp='1331947980' post='123421']

The instructions I was given by Ivan of IMA Motorsport are described in post # 5 of this thread. As that post says, there are three 12-pin connectors, one pink, one blue, and one off-white. When you say pins 3 and 4, which of the three connectors are you referring to?

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There is a black connector in the passenger footwell that is held in place by an orange locking clip. Once you disconnect the two pieces, the side that goes to the car has numbered pins. I used a short piece of wire to connect pins 3 and 4 together. This completely shuts off the system with all of the caveats that entails. I don't know about the workaround in post #5.

Also, if you disconnect the airbag controller without jumping 3 and 4, the car won't start as the fuel shut-off is triggered.

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[Cloud9...68]

9ines,



Thanks for the info. Where did you get this information? I'm not doubting you, but I'm left with two completely different sets of instructions for how to trick the system into thinking the airbag control module is still connected. I suppose it couldn't hurt to follow both yours and Ivan's instructions, could it...?

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[9ines]

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9ines,



Thanks for the info. Where did you get this information? I'm not doubting you, but I'm left with two completely different sets of instructions for how to trick the system into thinking the airbag control module is still connected. I suppose it couldn't hurt to follow both yours and Ivan's instructions, could it...?

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I came across it on RL and so far, it has worked for me with no problems. I tried to fool just the driver side with the resistor, but that failed after I disconnected the battery again to do other work. I decided to disconnect everything and be done with it.



-kb

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[flash]

i removed both of mine with no issues. i will have to go back in and see if i put a resistor in there just like the driver side, but i think i did.

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[Cloud9...68]

9ines,



I think I found the connector you're referring to:



   



Man, is that thing ever stuffed up in there! It would have been a beast to get to with the seat still in the car!



Anyway, assuming this is the correct connector, how exactly do I go about jumping across pin 3 and 4? There are six wires going into the connector on one side, and four on the other, but pins 3 and 4 have wires going into them on both sides. Do you know which side of the connector I need to jumper pins 3 and 4 on, or does it matter? And I assume I have to disconnect the wires going into the pins first, right? What should I do with the wires after I disconnect them?



Flash,



Just so we're clear, we're talking about the air bag control unit, not the module itself. I wouldn't have removed mine, as it only weighs about a pound, but another member (Cosimo) needed one, and since I had just removed my passenger side air bag module, I had no use for the control unit, so I removed it and sold it to him. I want to make sure that removing the unit won't make the car unable to start.

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[flash]

i removed the airbag and everything.

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[Cloud9...68]

Yes, I know. But the unit we're talking about is the control unit, which is buried behind the glove box, secured by tamper-proof nuts that have to be chiseled off. Getting the unit out is a MAJOR pain - you definitely would have remembered wrestling with this thing.

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[flash]

yup - as i remember, it was a pain, but frankly i can't remember how much crap i took out of there. oh goody - now i get to go back in and see if i left anything behind

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[Cloud9...68]

Removing the air bag module (the thing that contains the actual air bag) was actually a bit of a pain as well, but it's held in place by ordinary nuts. The air bag control unit is held in place by these weird tapered tamper-proof nuts that no standard wrench fits, plus they're very hard to get to. Here's a picture of mine while it was still in the car, with a close-up of one of these nuts:



   



And here's the unit out of the car:



   



Normally, there'd be no reason to remove this thing. I only removed mine because somebody on the forum wanted one, and since I'd already removed my air bag module, I didn't have any use for it.

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[9ines]

That's the connector. On the car side, when you look at the pinouts, there are numbers. I used a short piece of wire to connect 3 to 4 and then wrapped with electrical tape. My seat was in when I did mine and it took some contorting to get in there.



found this on RL:



968airbag.jpg

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[Cloud9...68]

Ah, yes, now I remember seeing this on RL as well. Thanks for all the helpful info. I'll go ahead and jumper these wires, in addition to the pair that Ivan from IMA recommended. A belts-and-suspenders thing, I suppose...

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[cosimo]

We (IMA) checked the 968 wiring diagram to ascertain the correct wires to jumper. I beleive this is the right way to go but that's not say it's the only way.

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