[Anchorman]

I'm about to take the plunge to modify the center cubby by using the 968Engineering gauge panel. I'd like to install what I believe Dave installed - oil temp, vacuum, and analog clock. Dave, do you have any kind of a "how to" and parts list to help those of us that want to follow your lead?

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[flash]

i have the same thing - love it - just go to his site (it's in his signature)- everything you need is there

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[Anchorman]

Sorry, but I'm not seeing "everything". I see how to order the panel, and the link to the site for the VDO gauges. But - what sender, sensor, etc.? Like every other project I do, I have to know that I have everything I need to finish the job before I start it. So - I'm looking for a complete parts list, and I don't see that at 968engineering.com. If it's there, please point me to it more clearly.

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[flash]

hmm - maybe he hasn't updated the site yet - i know he has the list, because he brought all the stuff over and set me up - drop him a note - i'm sure he'll fix you up

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[Greimann]

The oil temp gauge is #310-106

Oil temp sender is #323-423

Clock #370-152

Vacuum #150-131



They are the VDO Vision series as purchased from http://www.egauges.com/



The other things required that can be purchased from a local hardware store and / or autoparts store:



A 1/8 npt X 1/4 OD brass tube fitting for connecting to the back of the vacuum gauge.

1/4" plastic vacuum hose - about 6 feet ( I used plastic drip irrigation hose)

1/8" vacuum tee that tees off of the fuel pressure regulator fitting.

1/8" x 1/4" vacuum line adapter

20 X 1.5mm oil drain plug. Drilled and tapped for oil temp sensor.

Lengths of 14 gauge wire that is used to wire all this up.



I haven't listed the part numbers specifically on my site because I figured everyone would want to explore the wide variety and look of all the gauges out there. I had a recent customer that wanted the combination of gauges shown below. He had me buy them and wire them up too.







   

   

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[WYLDCTZ]

Dave,



How hard is all of this to wire up?



What does the 'vacuum' readout tell you?

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[Anchorman]

That's helpful additional information. Where does the oil temp sender get mounted/installed?



Intersting choice of gauges by your customer. Don't they duplicate information already displayed by the dash gauges? Was there a concern that those are unreliable or inaccurate?

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[Ed Russo]

[quote name='Anchorman' date='Mar 16 2005, 08:12 AM']That's helpful additional information.  Where does the oil temp sender get mounted/installed?



Intersting choice of gauges by your customer.  Don't they duplicate information already displayed by the dash gauges?  Was there a concern that those are unreliable or inaccurate?

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My concern was not so much reliability as was my concern for a more accurate measurement reading.

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[Anchorman]

Accuracy was my second suggested reason. Did this arise as a general distrust of factory instrumentation? Have you compared the readings on the added instruments vs. the stock dash instruments? It would be very interesting to understand your observations. Thanks for posting.

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[Greimann]

[quote name='Anchorman' date='Mar 16 2005, 04:12 AM']That's helpful additional information.  Where does the oil temp sender get mounted/installed?

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Good point, I left that out of the list above. The oil temp sender is drilled and tapped into the oil drain plug. I got a replacemet plug from an autoparts store and modified it. The plug is 20 X 1.5 mm thread if you are looking to pick one up.



   

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[Greimann]

[quote name='WYLDCTZ' date='Mar 15 2005, 09:47 PM']How hard is all of this to wire up?



What does the 'vacuum' readout tell you?

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It is about as hard as installing a stereo. If you can do that, you can do this.



The vacuum gauge tells you how much you suck. Mine seems to be pegged all the time! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



Seriously, it is a measure of manifold vacuum and in the olden days it was considered an economy meter. For me it is fun to watch because it moves around alot. If I was to put in something else, I might go with a water temp gauge, or maybe EGT, or perhaps AFR.

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[flash]

the factory temp guage is surprisingly accurate in my car - i've done measurements of the coolant and compared with it, and it's dead on the money - matches to what i would expect with he oil temp too



the voltmeter is off though, and apparantly consistent with other cars - about .5V low



don't know about the oil pressure or fuel guage (though mine reads full when full)



tach is dead on the money too



a vacuum guage will also tell you the condition of the motor - for example, if you have leaky valves, it will read differently than if they are good

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[Anchorman]

Ed - you may have done a great job with the gauges, but the photo leaves a lot to our imagination.

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[Ed Russo]

[ATTACHMENT NOT FOUND]center console gauges completed

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[flash]

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[Greimann]

Looking good Ed. Thanks for sharing!

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[flash]

well alrighty then



dave - that just has to make you warm and fuzzy all over

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[Greimann]

[quote name='flash' date='Mar 28 2005, 06:02 PM']dave - that just has to make you warm and fuzzy all over

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No, that would be an angora sweater (preferably made from my neighbor's Angora). <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/rolleyes.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[SILVY968]

[quote name='Greimann' date='Mar 15 2005, 09:00 PM']The oil temp gauge is #310-106

Oil temp  sender is #323-423

Clock #370-152

Vacuum #150-131



They are the VDO Vision series as purchased  from http://www.egauges.com/



The other things required that can be purchased from a local hardware store and / or autoparts store:



A 1/8 npt X 1/4 OD brass tube fitting for connecting to the back of the vacuum gauge.

1/4" plastic vacuum hose - about 6 feet ( I used plastic drip irrigation hose)

1/8" vacuum tee that tees off of the fuel pressure regulator fitting.

1/8" x 1/4" vacuum line adapter

20 X 1.5mm oil drain plug. Drilled and tapped for oil temp sensor.

Lengths of 14 gauge wire that is used to wire all this up.



I haven't listed the part numbers specifically on my site because I figured everyone would want to explore the wide variety and look of all the gauges out there.  I had a recent customer that wanted the combination of gauges shown below. He had me buy them and wire them up  too.





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Dave,

Can you please post a pic of the vacuum pick off point and the vacuum line routing? <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/blink.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

Thanks

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[Greimann]

[quote name='SILVY968' date='Feb 9 2006, 07:38 PM']Dave,

Can you please post a pic of the vacuum pick off point and the vacuum line routing? <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/blink.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

Thanks

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What, you want me to work! The Daily Show is on! Ok, here:

The line runs through the grommet where the heater hoses run. Lie upside down in the passenger footwell and look up - er - down where there are two hoses protruding through the firewall.

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