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Can you add weight to the shifter?
#1

I just got my new shifter in the mail today, but when I pulled it out of the package I was surprised at how light it was, when I got the original out of the car the weight difference was obvious. I haven't been out on the road yet, but I can tell this rubber shifter isn't going to due as well as the original. Can I add weight to this thing in anyway? Has anyone looked into or done this already? I know a short shifter will increase the shift effort, will that make it feel like it has more weight too?
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#2

i had the same problem. tried wrapping the base of the shift lever with lead tape to put mass back into the system with marginal effect. you can find lead tape at most golf supply shops.
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#3

What brand/type of shifter is your new one? I have a new DR1 short shift kit that I'm waiting for time to install and looks and feels very much the same as the original
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This isn't a short shift kit, I was wondering if a short shift kit could help, due to the increased effort required. PM me if you want to know where I bought the shifter.
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#5

There's a long discussion on after market shifter buzzing. A lot of effort went into finding a way to insulate and weigh down the shifter but it seems no one was 100% satisfied with the results. As it turns out, the original shifters weight plays a key role in minimizing the vibration.



shame, as I really wanted that illuminated shifter with a suede boot.
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#6

it's not just the weight. it's the rubber dampers that are on the inside. the accordion design does a very nice job of isolating the shift knob from the shifter itself.



you wouldn't like a suede boot for very long. they very quickly become glazed and look bad



the short shift kit does not add much effort, so this will not change the feel much, and it will make no change relative to any noise or vibration. the design is based on the OEM shifter, and is just shorter and the pin geometry changed to provide a better mechanical advantage resulting in a smaller pattern
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[quote name='flash' timestamp='1334673680' post='125366']

the accordion design does a very nice job of isolating the shift knob from the shifter itself.

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I've noticed that damper. I assumed it was left in place when Dan and others added newer Porsche shifters.
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#8

nope - doesn't fit with those.
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#9

Ahhhhh, perhaps dremeling out a bigger opening? Think I'll dig up that thread.



Thanks for the suede tip
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[quote name='rhudeboye' timestamp='1334755658' post='125453']



I've noticed that damper. I assumed it was left in place when Dan and others added newer Porsche shifters.[/quote]



Dan, as in me ? Nope, the accordion pieces do not fit ( I have the 996 shifter ).
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#11

Correct. The fit between the knob and shifter on the aftermarket knobs is way too tight for the accordian insulator to fit. As far as dremeling out the knob - not sure if there's enough wall thickness to allow that, but it's worth a look.
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[quote name='ds968' timestamp='1334768482' post='125502']

Dan, as in me ? Nope, the accordion pieces do not fit ( I have the 996 shifter ).

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Yeah you.



I ordered a 996 shifter off ebay a while back but never installed it. I later sold it and planned on getting the illuminated shifter made for our 68s. Till I heard the buzz was present there as well.



Think I'll still go that route with a goal of making that damper fit.
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But I got it to a point where the buzz is only audible b/w 2400 and 2600 rpm and ONLY if I am inside my garage with complete silence ( radio, etc off , and no outside noise )
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if you shut the garage door for a while, you won't here it then either
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DS,



Have you considered a visit to an audiologist? I'm suspecting a deficiency at the frequency of this buzz <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.png" class="smilie" alt="" /> , because I've done everything ever proposed to fix it on mine, and I can still hear the infernal thing at FREEWAY SPEEDS! Wait - you never drive yours below 6000 rpm - no wonder you can't hear the buzz!
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what?
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#17

funny flash..

cloud, ( and the rest..) try releasing or even removing the base screw which "secures" the 996 shifter knob onto the shifter arm. if you have enough material stuffed in there the knob will not pull off . with the screw tightened I had more buzzing, and even at those 6k + rpm levels. no need for an audiologist, lol , believe me it IS almost silent . mind you, I have enough material and different combinations thereof in that chamber ( all in very thin layers ) that pushing the shifter knob down took around half hour, using lots of lubricants and all of my 180 lbs weight on top of it ( this is starting to sound obscene ..) but it worked..as well as I think a non-oem can.. I don't remember the last combination of materials I stuffed in there, but I think they are ( from shifter arm-outward ): the "hooks&loop" side of a velcro strip, latex glove rubber, felt material strip..and at the very top, an extra piece of rubber from a bicycle intertube. Yes folks, a cluster-f**k of items in there, but this was after testing probably 20 -25 different combinations over a ten year span. BTW re lubricants to ease that knob down ( again, back to the gutter, lol ) use soapy water and/or or olive oil, both of which will eventually evaporate and all you're left with afterwards is an extremely tight fit which will not permit the knob to slide off the arm even one mm when shifting, and no worries at all either when pulling up for reverse..



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#18

Since this is a thread on shift knobs, I thought I might ask my question again, as it has been a few years. I have an original Rootwood shift knob, but the leather insert with the shift pattern is worn. Is it possible to replace it (the leather) or am I SOL?
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#19

Dan,



I've tried removing the set screw, after stuffing the inside of the shift knob (albeit not nearly as creatively as you <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.png" class="smilie" alt="" />) to the point where I, to, was pressing on it with all my weight to get it onto the shaft, but no luck - not one iota less buzz than before. I have a 996 GT3 knob, which is a very light aluminum piece, so I'm afraid the buzz is incurable. Oh, well, at least I can't hear it at the track with my helmet on...
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i wonder if the GT 3 one is different than mine - I have the carbon fiber and aluminum ( for the members in UK, that's alumee-neeum <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/rolleyes.gif" class="smilie" alt="" /> ) 996 shifter.
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