[scaldwell]

Hi



A couple of questions.



1. I posted a request for information for an owner's manual for a 94, in the Parts Wanted section and Gryphon suggested Sunset. Sunset has a manual for a 93 and a wait for 2 - 4 months for a manual for a 94. Since these cars didn't change very much from one model year to the next would opting for the 93 create any difficulties?



2. What would members recommend for wheel locks?



Thanks in advance.



Steve

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[flash]

i can't see much being different in the owner's manual - i have a 94 manual, and could supplement anything different



as for wheel locks, i recommend not using them at all - they don't hold torque as well, are a huge hassle, and besides, that's what insurance is for, but, if you really want them, i have a set of the original ones i could probably be persuaded to sell

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[wiseman]

[quote name='flash' post='56050' date='Jul 9 2008, 11:28 AM']i can't see much being different in the owner's manual - i have a 94 manual, and could supplement anything different



as for wheel locks, i recommend not using them at all - they don't hold torque as well, are a huge hassle, and besides, that's what insurance is for, but, if you really want them, i have a set of the original ones i could probably be persuaded to sell[/quote]





Flash,



Speaking of wheel stuff. My lug nuts look like crap. I sell millions of lug nuts a year but I need the specs on those lugs to see if I can get any. Would you know the length and thread pattern?

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[bob blackwell]

I second Flash's recommendation on the wheel locks - don't use them. Just makes it more difficult to change the wheels and tires and adds precious ounces of weight to the wheels. Good luck, Bob Blackwell.

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[PorscheDude]

[quote name='scaldwell' post='56048' date='Jul 9 2008, 11:15 AM']What would members recommend for wheel locks?



Thanks in advance.



Steve[/quote]



These are $30

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-Whe...sspagenameZWDVW

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[PorscheDude]

[quote name='wiseman' post='56060' date='Jul 9 2008, 01:54 PM']Flash,



Speaking of wheel stuff. My lug nuts look like crap. I sell millions of lug nuts a year but I need the specs on those lugs to see if I can get any. Would you know the length and thread pattern?[/quote]

Came across these the other day.

only $17

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FREE-SHIPPI...sspagenameZWDVW



Here decent looking set.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-All...sspagenameZWDVW



Sorry I do not know the thread pitch.

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[flash]

i'm not a fan of aluminum nuts to begin with, but i definitely wouldn't buy used aluminum lug nuts - aluminum nuts are only good for about 25 uses - they lose their ability to hold torque - who knows how many times used ones have been on and off?



if you are changing, i'd go steel

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[PorscheDude]

I think I saw steel nuts listed as well.

Sometimes I see a seller there who sells new aluminum lug nuts.

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[Ryan]

What are the OE lugs made of? They are light as a feather for sure.

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[flash]

aluminum - fine for a car that doesn't have its wheels taken off often, but not the best - also not legal for racing in most organizations



somewhere around here i think i have a set of aluminum nuts that i am pretty sure have only been off the car a half dozen times - not sure why i am hanging onto them either, other than i don't trust them enough to risk something happening on somebody else's car



by the way, the spec is M14 x 1.5 - not sure of the length

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[wiseman]

Pretty sure they are 14mm. Looks like OE would be a 1.5" 14mm. with a ball seat. As it turns out I have steel nuts with the open ends, 1.5" chrome and 2" chrome 14mm , all with ball seats. I'm going to take one of each home this weekend and see what's what. Hope one works becouse I have hundreds of each.

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[flash]

lol - yeah, i imagine you do



i have chrome ball seat closed steel on my car - they came with the wheels, so i don't know who makes them

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[wiseman]

In looking thru the net for the bolt pattern , I was shocked to see the prices these locations were charging for lugs for our cars. So I hope one of these work. I have a number of "Splined" 14mm ball end chrome locking lugs also that come with the appropriate adapter lug socket. Deems it might be a better option than the key deal. (Whole lot less money).

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[flash]

they certainly hold torque better - i still am not a fan of the ability to lose the key, but it does work



i just realized i still have locks on the denali - i remember making the decision to keep them for 3 reasons - 1 - the car has 6 lugs, 2- the car sits outside, 3 - it is the tow rig, and frequently sits in unknown areas with the trailer attached



but, i have run into issues over the key - i forgot to pull it out once when it was at a shop, and the shop let it sit there all day until i called to check on it, rather than ask where the key was - this mangled my schedule - i suppose i could put it in one of the obvious places, but then what is the point of having locks if the crook knows where the key is?

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[cosimo]

I purchased some wheel locks from Perfomance Products for my Fiske FM10's. A mechanic using an air wrench over tighten the lock part on the rear wheels. I went thru 3 sets of keys trying to get the locks off and broke all three. Had to have the locks drilled out. No more wheel locks for me. I don't think stealing wheels is very big thing anymore unless you go to parts of the city that are seedy and/or crime ridden. Losing the key was always on my mind and I tried to keep it handy which probably defeated the need for wheel locks.

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[PorscheDude]

Its easier to just steal the whole car now a days.

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