[txbigdog00]

I'm kinda' new to the 968 party so please bear with my ignorance. My car's last 6 digits are 820199. Where does it fall in the production run? How does a person decipher the VIN, bit by bit. Thanks! Dan

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[PorscheDude]

The answer is probably posted here somewhere...

I just dont know where.

Jeff maybe able to best answer this.



Try the 968 registry

The link to the left with site sponsors.

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[unknown4u]

For the complet explanation of the Vin and also the numbers of production you can find it in part one of the pocket of 968 technical information.



http://www.968forums.com/index.php?showtopic=164



Totals are 6000 cabs, 6000 Coupes and already 2000 or more ??? crashed.

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[PorscheDude]

[quote name='unknown4u' post='48216' date='Feb 26 2008, 02:07 PM']Totals are 6000 cabs, 6000 Coupes and already 2000 or more ??? crashed.[/quote]



Ouch! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/mad.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[unknown4u]

Yes this site is popular too! Almost more members than cars left........ And some of us have more than one <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/rolleyes.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[jeff968]

[quote name='txbigdog00' post='48211' date='Feb 26 2008, 01:00 PM']I'm kinda' new to the 968 party so please bear with my ignorance. My car's last 6 digits are 820199. Where does it fall in the production run? How does a person decipher the VIN, bit by bit. Thanks! Dan[/quote]



I can tell you but I need the two letters in front of the VIN. Either NS, PS, RS, or SS.

jeff

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[sasilverbullet]

it's the 199th one made in that year

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[spectre996]

So, If I understand all of this correctly, my VIN of WPOAA2960PS820632 ('93 coupe) means the following:



WPO - World code indicating it is made by Porsche

AA2 - VDS indicating it was destined for the US

96 - First two digits of the model number

0 - Test digit

P - Made in 1993

S - Manufactured in Stuttgart

8 - Last digit of the model number

2 - Code for body and engine?

0632 - Serial number (632nd produced that year?)

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[jeff968]

[quote name='sasilverbullet' post='48233' date='Feb 26 2008, 09:56 PM']it's the 199th one made in that year[/quote]



Nope, not that simple. Porsche held the first 60 VINs back for each model year in each series. The first coupe sold in each year is 820061, first cab is 840061. If his car is a 92 (NS) then he has the 139th coupe sold in the US market.

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[jeff968]

[quote name='spectre996' post='48234' date='Feb 26 2008, 10:31 PM']So, If I understand all of this correctly, my VIN of WPOAA2960PS820632 ('93 coupe) means the following:



WPO - World code indicating it is made by Porsche

AA2 - VDS indicating it was destined for the US

96 - First two digits of the model number

0 - Test digit

P - Made in 1993

S - Manufactured in Stuttgart

8 - Last digit of the model number

2 - Code for body and engine?

0632 - Serial number (632nd produced that year?)[/quote]



PCNA produced 608 coupes for 1993 Model year. The VIN range is PS820061 - PS820668. That would make your car #572 for the 93s.

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[spectre996]

Got it! Thanks! So how would one go about figuring out exactly when their car was made (i.e, month, day)?

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[unknown4u]

The figures (not the best alingment.)





1992 1993

Coupe US 713 Coupe US 668

Coupe RoW 2547 Coupe RoW 1203

Cab US 727 Cab US 414

Cab RoW 1366 Cab RoW 631

total: 5353 CS RoW 856

Turbo S RoW 11

total: 3783





1994 1995

Coupe US 778 Coupe US 258

Coupe RoW 298 CS RoW 531

Cab US 741 Cab US 366

Cab RoW 128 Cab RoW 1

CS RoW 536 total: 1156

Turbo S RoW 3

total: 2484





TOTALS

Coupe US 2417

Coupe RoW 4048

Cab US 2248

Cab RoW 2351

CS RoW 1923

Turbo S RoW 14

total: 12776







How many should have survived?





included the chassisnummers.



Year Model Market Chassic Numbers

1992 968 RoW WPOZZZ96ZNN800001-0006

968 US WPOAA296_NN820001-0004

968 Cab RoW WPOZZZ96ZNN830001-0003

968 Cab US WPOCA296_NN840001-0002

968 RoW WPOZZZ96ZNS800001-2541

968 US WPOAA296_NS820001-0709

968 Cab RoW WPOZZZ96ZNS830001-1366

968 Cab RoW WPOCA296_NS840001-0727

1993 968 RoW WPOZZZ96ZPS800001-1203

968 CS RoW WPOZZZ96ZPS815001-5856

968 US/Canada WPOAA296_PS820001-0668

968 Cab RoW WPOZZZ96ZPS830001-0631

968 Cab US/Canada WPOAA296_PS840001-0414

968 Turbo S RoW WPOZZZ96ZPS890061-0071

1994 968 RoW WPOZZZ96ZRS800001-0298

968 CS RoW WPOZZZ96ZRS815001-5536

968 US/Canada WPOAA296_RS820001-0778

968 Cab RoW WPOZZZ96ZRS830001-0128

968 Cab US/Canada WPOCA296_RS840001-0741

968 Turbo S RoW WPOZZZ96ZRS890061-0063

1995 968 Cab RoW WPOZZZ96ZSS830061-0061

968 CS RoW WPOZZZ96ZSS815001-5531

968 US/Canada WPOAA296_SS820001-0258

968 Cab US/Canada WPOCA296_SS840001-0366





The underlined is the range where mine is in. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[jeff968]

[quote name='spectre996' post='48242' date='Feb 27 2008, 06:24 AM']Got it! Thanks! So how would one go about figuring out exactly when their car was made (i.e, month, day)?[/quote]





The production month and date can be found on the upper right hand corner of the VIN sticker of your driver's door jam.

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[jeff968]

[quote name='unknown4u' post='48243' date='Feb 27 2008, 08:16 AM']The figures (not the best alingment.)

1992 1993

Coupe US 713 Coupe US 668

Coupe RoW 2547 Coupe RoW 1203

Cab US 727 Cab US 414

Cab RoW 1366 Cab RoW 631

total: 5353 CS RoW 856

Turbo S RoW 11

total: 3783

1994 1995

Coupe US 778 Coupe US 258

Coupe RoW 298 CS RoW 531

Cab US 741 Cab US 366

Cab RoW 128 Cab RoW 1

CS RoW 536 total: 1156

Turbo S RoW 3

total: 2484

TOTALS

Coupe US 2417

Coupe RoW 4048

Cab US 2248

Cab RoW 2351

CS RoW 1923

Turbo S RoW 14

total: 12776

How many should have survived?[/quote]



I've seen those numbers before and they are wrong, at least for the NA 968s. Morgan has them published in his book as well. Again, they reflect the sales of the first 60 VINs for each year and model and those cars were never sold. I have offical sales documentation from PCNA which balance with the numbers minus 480 cars. The registry supports this as well. i have almost 700 cabs registered over 7 years and have yet to find one with a VIN less then 61. I say 2008 North American 968 cabs sold and 2234 968 coupes during the production run.

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[flash]

could be semantics - "produced" versus "sold" - we know that number of chassis were produced that were never sold - we've seen pics of some of them - probably not all 60 each year though



lol - but that would make this car even more rare than what everyone thought



that's cool, right?

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[NeedPorscheSpeed]

[quote name='jeff968' post='48235' date='Feb 26 2008, 10:31 PM']Porsche held the first 60 VINs back for each model year in each series.[/quote]



Interesting stuff, Jeff! Thanks for elucidating that point. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



[quote name='flash' post='48248' date='Feb 27 2008, 09:16 AM']lol - but that would make this car even more rare than what everyone thought



that's cool, right?[/quote]



You bet it is! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[txbigdog00]

Wow, thanks to everyone for all the info and insight. I have been out of the loop for a few weeks but after reading all the replies, I realize I should have included my VIN in the original thread. It is:



WP0AA2960SS820199



It's a Black/Cashmere coupe. Stone stock, no mods. Bought it from the second owner (a doctor from Miami) a few years ago and shipped in a container over to Bremerhaven where I picked it up and drove it home to Wuerzburg.



So if the production run went to 258 in 1995 (968 US/Canada WPOAA296_SS820001-0258), that would make my car pretty close to the end. Khewl.



Thanks again for all the great info everyone!!!



Dan

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[Simuse]

For 1992 did RoW include Canada? Was looking through this and realized that my VIN is: WP0CA2965NS840364...if I follow that isn't a US VIN?

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[jeff968]

[quote name='txbigdog00' post='49501' date='Mar 20 2008, 10:34 AM']WP0AA2960SS820199



So if the production run went to 258 in 1995 (968 US/Canada WPOAA296_SS820001-0258), that would make my car pretty close to the end. Khewl.



Thanks again for all the great info everyone!!!



Dan[/quote]



Dan,

That 258 number is wrong. The last car is actually 319 and production is 259.



As for your car:



It is the 139th 1995 coupe of 259 produced for the north american market



It is the 2114th of 2334 coupes produced for the north american market



Jeff





[quote name='Simuse' post='49505' date='Mar 20 2008, 11:27 AM']For 1992 did RoW include Canada? Was looking through this and realized that my VIN is: WP0CA2965NS840364...if I follow that isn't a US VIN?[/quote]



Canada was grouped with the North american (US) numbers. Your VIN is a US VIN.

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