[Charles Geer]

I took a few pounds out of my F stock 968 and took on the NASA GTS 3 field which is made up of lightweight E 36 Euro M3's and other high powered German cars.

The 968 won both the Saturday and Sunday races. Catching the faster competitors in the braking and turning portions of the track. Next year I will do like Eric and provide some video. These cars really do out handle the competition. Here are a few Pics of the latest Nasa Road Atlanta race.



We dropped the car down to 2670 lbs (down from 3086 lbs). Even though we were 200 lbs over weight for the class, we were able to catch the competitors in the turns during both races.



HERE HERE for that little known car called the 968.



Next year we will compete at the NASA championship at mid ohio to see how we fare.

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[Dave]

Way to go Charles! Where do they post race results? I'm trying to see how my buddy Eric Cyranski did in his 944 S2, Red #400.

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[Mark]

I think the web site is http://nasa-tt.com



Great driving! and i always loved you car number. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/smile.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[mike]

Excellent job Charles!!! It is very inspiring to me as I'm sure it is to others to see drivers in our cars do so well. BTW - What did you do to lose 400+ lbs.?



mike

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[mike]

Mark,



I believe that the results will be posted (eventually) here: http://www.nasa-southeast.com/results.html



mike

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[Eric_K]

Great job Charles. It is fun to beat other guys - especially when they don't even know what your car is. Taking out the headlights will get you another 30lbs too.





Eric

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[Scott Collins]

[quote name='Eric_K' date='Aug 26 2006, 09:41 PM']Great job Charles. It is fun to beat other guys - especially when they don't even know what your car is. Taking out the headlights will get you another 30lbs too.

Eric

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I'm not sure if this is the correct way to put it, but, when you drop

400 lbs, what kind of hp do you gain?

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[bob blackwell]

Keep up the good work Charles! Great to see the 968 doing well on the track, good luck, Bob Blackwell.

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[ether_joe]

great job guys





. . . (insert that 'bow-down' smiley from rennlist here) <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/laugh.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />

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[ether_joe]

hey question, re out-handing the E36 & others - is it partly a weight distribution issue? Do those cars have a transaxle and 50/50 weight distribution like us?

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[Charles Geer]

I think the BMW Transmission is behind the engine making it a little front heavy. Ours is behind the diff giving our cars better balance.



To delete the weight I removed carpets, door panels, door window glass, 225 lbs of lead used to make it a PCA F car, Leather passenger seat, spare tire, heavy battery (replaced with "ODDESSY" dry cell battery ; check spelling).



PCA F car 3086 lbs

NASA GTS 3 2670 lbs



The car dyno results were 221 rear wheel with the Firehawk chip. And that's with

a bone stock 52,000 mile motor thats never been opened. "I WAS SHOCKED WHEN

I GOT THE DYNO RESULTS, THIS WAS MUCH HIGHER THAN I THOUGHT THE MOTOR WAS CAPABLE OF IN STOCK FORM, I THINK THIS PUTS THE POWER AT ABOUT 215 RWHP WITH F STOCK CHIP"





When I return to PCA I will run car as a 2900 lb Firehawk E Stock racer.



The 968 is allowed to be about 2400 lbs as a GTS3 racer in NASA. I will be taking the rest of the winter to try to achieve this. I will replace the front windshield with LEXAN. I will remove the stock cooling fans (2 FAN SYSTEM) and replace with the 968 CLUBSPORT fan (1 FAN SYSTEM). I don't want to cut the car up because then it would not be a legal E car so I going to have to get creative. I believe that once the car is light enough it should be competitive as a GTS 3 car. Finally I will gut the innards of the dash to try to find another 20 lbs or so.



I plan to compete at the 2007 NASA Championship.



Thanks for the congrats....You guys are always supportive.

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[bob blackwell]

Good stuff Charles! I love it, good luck, Bob Blackwell.

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[Andre]

Congratulations! It's great to see 968 taking a pole position! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



I would love to shave some weight off my 968 for autoX and interested in a lighter battery. What part # Odyssey battery did you use? Odyssey web site lists one automotive dry cell at ~58lbs, which is heavier than a regular 40lbs battery.



Can Odyssey be used on a street-legal car or does it require some special charging, etc? Are any adaptors/brakets needed to install it or does it go right in?



Andrey

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[Charles Geer]

[quote name='Andre' date='Sep 5 2006, 11:13 AM']Congratulations! It's great to see 968 taking a pole position!  <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



I would love to shave some weight off my 968 for autoX and interested in a lighter battery. What part # Odyssey battery did you use? Odyssey web site lists one automotive dry cell at ~58lbs, which is heavier than a regular 40lbs battery. 



Can Odyssey be used on a street-legal car or does it require some special charging, etc?  Are any adaptors/brakets needed to install it or does it go right in?



Andrey

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You want the PC680 with the PC680 hold down bracket. You also need the "pencil" terminals which are the leads that screw down over the stock negative positive terminals. You also must have a battery cutoff switch (used in race cars) so that the battery doesn't drain.

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[Graham]

Brilliant well done!



Graham

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[chris]

Well done!



And thanks for posting up some pics, some nice shots in there

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[Charles Geer]

Here are pics of my battery. We put it where the old heater blowers used to be to better balance its weight.

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