[Bulti]

This dude -you may know him already- owns my favourite car. Great video. For the fans of this particular model: keep a bucket near you, your saliva production will go nuts :-)



The green one is the 70's at it's best. O. My. God.



http://youtu.be/Q9YcfnsZRhM

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[flash]

lol - saw the big cup of coffee. lost interest in the video and had to go get a cup. no shocker though. i think early all 911s are junk, and the 930 is probably the ugliest of the bunch. hate that big tail.



you asked

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[Bulti]

Lol, no problemo. Can't help your eyesight isn't what it used to be.

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[ds968]

And that ice green metallic is close enough to the more recent sea foam green metallic I've seen on a GT3, ; definitely my favorite car color of all time. Could be the only compelling reason for me to drive a 911 , lol. Too bad it's matched with what they call an avocado green interior ( and plaid seat inserts , as if the color wasn't bad enough by itself ) making it look as if someone threw up all over the cabin. Actually seeing that interior most would throw up.. :-( :-(

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[ryker]

And speaking of Avacado green, this 1976 Turbo Carrera with 36,000 miles is sitting in my warehouse. A buddy of mine purchased it 30 years ago, rebuilt the engine, and it sat in his driveway ever since. I talked him into renting a corner of my warehouse to get his 4 Porsches out of the weather. This is the best of the bunch but they all have a lot of sun damage. The engine still looks spotless, and it does run.



I actually love the looks of these cars. I owned a 1982 SC with a whale tale years ago, and it was a great vehicle.

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[flash]

the one thing i don't like at all about the targa i am looking at is the stupid tail that pops up. i don't care how much downforce it gives, i'd like to be able to disable it and leave it down. wings and tails are ugly (yes, i've had my fair share - still ugly)

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[Bulti]

This is why I fell in love with The Brand to begin with. Black paint, black and chrome Fuchs's,... Leaves a pretty big impression when you're 5 years old and you hear the noise, see the back end 'squatting' and leaving whatever other sports car dead in the water. My knees are getting weak just at the mere thought of it.



One day I will buy a farm and start growing left nuts, so I can trade them for one of these.

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[ds968]

oh man, talk about different strokes for different folks.. i think the Fuchs are just about the F-ugliest wheels I have ever seen, they don't belong on anything but a sorry excuse for a Porsche like the 924, IMHO of course.. Ugh, the Avocado green is closer to a vomit green.. Still cant stand 911s, if someone held a gun to my head I might consider a 930 turbo or a 993 or a GT3 , otherwise not a chance. and the sound of any and all six cylinder Porsches SUCKS ! But how do I really feel about 911s , you ask, LOL ?

But in fairness, I feel the same about Lamborghinis ( except they sound a hell of a lot better than those six cyl 911s ) ..

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[968Syncro]

Like Ryker, I drove an '82 911 SC Targa for 11 years before the 968. It was a very nice car. But then we know these vintage 911s are sports cars, whereas the 968 is a GT car. I do like the 968 now, but sports cars are still in my blood from the teen days being around Triumphs, MGs, Austins, etc.

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[flash]

agree about the fuchs - fugly. hate those funky bumpers too. just plain don't like that car at all. never did.



note: by definition, sports cars do not have a fixed roof or back seats.

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[JTP]

The 911 may not be perfect but it represents good engineering philosophy. Start with a good design, then make incremental evolutionary changes to improve upon the original design. I for one love how it looks, from it's beginnings in 1963 to today's modern iteration.

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[kwikt]

Resale value....... enough said!!!!!

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[ds968]

Resale value is irrelevant UNLESS of course that's the primary, or one of the main reasons / you buy the car . Look at the crazy values of American muscle car lately, most are pure crap to drive but people pay huge money to have one. Same for the " classic " 911s. But yes, most 911s are a very good investment.

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[kwikt]

Yep.... ugly or not. I'm still hanging on to my 72 911(purchased in 1985) as prices continue to soar lol. I should have also bought a 911 turbo back in the day when prices were down. Love those cars <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/beer.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



MERRY CHRISTMAS

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[flash]

to me, until the latest version, they all look like a VW bug. makes sense. that was the origin.



buy a car for resale value almost never works out. when you factor in the cost to maintain, or to restore, you usually lose. if you buy it and mothball it, what's the point?



as for the design, i don't think it's all that great a design at all. poorly balanced, ill handling, difficult to drive, sounds like a Hoover vacuum, leaks......i could go on. i'm not sure how the heck the car ever caught on. obviously it did, and just as obviously it's lost on me.



that being said, i am liking what they did to the latest one, and ironically the 911 purists are not taking to it well.

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[ds968]

I could be wrong, but from what I have seen lately it appears that 993 current market values are the highest, as a factor of their original price when compared to any other Porsche models throughout time ( except for the 356 perhaps, and of course not counting stuff like the 959.. ) . It's been almost a surreal surge in the last couple of years for the 993. Tough choice for those who have one ; do you sell it now and walk way with an unprecedented load of cash, or do you hang on to it hoping it will eventually reach some astronomical price levels ?

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[Cloud9...68]

When I was in college, I test drove a 1970 911S. NIce car, drove well, but I didn't buy it. The seller was asking $10K, as I recall (this was around 1979 or so). Out of curiosity, I checked what early 911's are selling for nowadays, so I did a Google search. The first one I found, an early '70's was, wait for it, a cool $250K. Wha??!! Looking closer, it was practically in museam condition, with ridiculously low mileage, but I'm told that even a reaonable pre-'73 (the year they started with the 5 mph bumpers) can easily fetch north of $100K. A co-worker's father recently sold a very low mileage, mint 993 for around $55K. So, while the 993's have held their values very well, the really early ones, I would guess a 72 911S being at the top end, seem to have appreciated the most.



The 911 has to be the most polarizing car ever made. Strangely, I find myself in the middle. I like the compact, light weight, efficint design. I love the slope of the roofline, too, but can't stand the interiors of the early ones. They're not my favorite cars ever (I prefer the Boxtser/Cayman), but there's something about them I do like. A few years ago, Car & Driver ran an article on the coolest cars of all time. The ususal suspects were in the top five - the original E Type, the C4 Corvette, among others, but guess which was numero uno? Yup, the 911. I don't agree with this, but apparently a lot of people do.

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[Bulti]

I find it funny that some people keep arguing that the 911 is a badly designed car, mainly because a lot of weight sits behind the rear axle. Ok, the average Joe will park it in a ditch real quick when thinking he or she is Schumacher, but wannabe racers should stay clear of any sports car, even the 'easy' ones, imo.



Basically, the engines, chassis and it's concept overall has nothing to prove to anyone. There are more than examples enough of the car beating other "better balanced" cars, a lot of the times with more than a few hp and/or cylinders more. And not to forget: both on- and off road. There are some drawbacks no doubt, but the plus sides outweigh the negatives. There is no perfect design, there never was.



Comparing it to a Bug? There are common features, but an F-16 and a Cessna got those too.



The car got a very large and worldwide fanbase for a good reason, there is no denying that.

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[Cloud9...68]

Agreed - there are a lot of advantages to the tail-heavy design - great traction, for one, and, in the hands of a capable driver, the tendency toward oversteer can be used to great advantage in corners. The low center of gravity of the boxer engine is also a positive, and the layout makes for efficient packaging, with lots of room in the cabin, and a respectable trunk up front. In my limited experience, I've found that I can beat a lot of what should be much faster cars in my 968, with one glaring exception. I was on the track with a 997 once, and he beat me by well over a second per lap, on the short, technical part of the track, where lap times for a fast car are in the mid 30's.

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[ds968]

I drove a 1980 911 SC for a while , and I did enjoy the simplicity and the raw feel it had to it. It felt more as a sports car that anything else I've experienced. In my view, cars should provide some effort to drive them, creature comforts are overrated , buy a Cadillac if that's your thing .. :-) But I just can't get over that VW bug lines

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