[H2Ojazz]

Well, after several years of DE instructors are telling me its time for me to get onto track tires. I currently run Pilot Sports on stock wheels and am considering Sport Cups. I intend to swap out tires at home and drive 2-4 hrs to tracks (WGI, LRP) in area. I have no way of towing car, and do not plan to. Hoosiers, therefore, are probably not a good idea.



I was wondering about sizes - should I stay with original 205 55/225 50?



Any other suggestions re brands/sizes etc appreciated.



BTW, just went with Porterfield Kevlar pads at Watkins Glen last weekend. Huge difference in my braking capability and confidence. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/tongue.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



Thanks, folks.

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[flash]

i would try to find a way to transport a set of track wheels and tires, rather than burn out your track tires on the highway



failing that, perhaps a stickier street tire than the pilot - have you considered the new yokohama advan?



or if you are brave and don't drive in the rain, a DOT approved track tire

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[H2Ojazz]

Thanks, Flash.



Are the Advans a significantly better tire?

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[flash]

the advan neovo is getting rave reviews - blowing away the other tires - read about it on tire rack - i wish they made it in my sizes

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[pmcrespo]

Awesome! Whichever way you go, you'll be thrilled with the added performance. Glad to see you made it back to the Glen. I have to agree with a track set of wheels and tires. 2 Fronts on a roof-rack, and 2 Rears inside the car. Or, the nifty little tow hitch receiver with the tiny tire trailer. I see the 944 Cup guys do this all the time.

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[sguy]

I running a set of Toyo RA1''s that have given me good service on the track. I drive at least 1.5 hours to the track and I change tires. I have a coupe and a set of tires will fit inside. Put the two front tires in the rear most part of the hatch and with the seats folded the rears fit with one tire tipped on top of the other. That leaves room for jack and some tools on the floor and seats of the rear and gear and lunch on the front seat. However the RA's and Toyo's newer track tire have roadable capability if you don't want to change at the track. For durability, they will give lots of hours on the track. When I crewed for Eric at an 8-hour enduro race, the car went the whole way on one set of RA1's to second place overall, and Eric said he used to tires for practice several times after that. I assume you are using 16" wheels and the RA1's come in sizes 225/50 and 245/45 that I'm running on the stock 16's. that fit and work great.

Cheers,

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[968gene]

I have a set of these mounted on 8x16 D90s for track use on my 944S. They are cheap enough to buy the tires and used wheels. I have 4 DE's on one set with one or two more left in them.

http://www.frisbyracetire.com/hankook_z211.asp

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[pmcrespo]

I actually used two sticker R888s (I had to get on track at Buttonwillow to finish practice... long story) on my front 16s while using my pair of used Hoosier R6s on the rear. I was REALLY impressed with the R888s. The grip was actually very much well beyond my wildest dreams. In fact, my car went from understeering to oversteering the moment I put them on. Great turn-in and outstanding feel with plenty of feedback at the limit. Nevertheless, once they started overheating, while pushed too hard, they gave up quickly and started sliding. But I believe this is just a function of the R6s on the rear holding up to many hard laps better as they are designed for that. The R888s are not built to be overdriven. Exactly what I did as they tried to keep up with R6s driving the rear. Expected results... But then again... that's why I am wearing the big a _ s "R" for "Rookie" on the back bumper! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/968/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" alt="" />



I believe that if I had to go to a road going tire, the R888 would be my choice. They probably make for a good rain tire as well. Just a little steep in price even thoug I hear they hold up.

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[H2Ojazz]

Been reading good stuff on Dunlop Direzza Z1 start specs. Anyone?

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[bob blackwell]

Grassroots Motorsports recently did a comparison tire test and used the Bridgestone RE01R as their standard to judge the other tires against. The Yokomaha S drive did quite well as did the Falken Ziex ZE-912. This was a test of lower priced tires that could perform as street and track use tires. Good luck, Bob Blackwell.

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[rob76turbo]

Bob, did they also test the Falken Azenis RT 615? I ran those on my Miata and with a 200 treadware, they should work well on the Porsche for street. Although that treadware rating may be too soft for some folks, but I like grip!!

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[Torbjorn968]

Of the R tires used this side of the pond the Michelin usually gets the best reviews. Have them, like them and they also seem to have a very good life essentially making up for price differences to Toyos etc. Both compared to the Pirellies and Yokos I have had myself and comments I have heard from fellow nuts.



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[H2Ojazz]

T,



Do you use you Michelins on-track only via trailering or put 'em on at home?

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[Torbjorn968]

T[quote name='H2Ojazz' post='58389' date='Aug 27 2008, 04:12 AM']T,



Do you use you Michelins on-track only via trailering or put 'em on at home?[/quote]



I have six 17x9 wheels and drive to the track with the most worn tires bringing 2 spares. My cage prevents me from bringing four additional wheels unless I remove the passenger chair. If it rains heavilly I drive sort of slow...



The Michelins are OK in terms of noice althoug a street tire would be much more comfortable and give you a good rain tire should it not be dry. But then again: why not learn to drive with R tyres in the wet? A challenge as good as any.....



So far I have heard of noone having oversteer problems with equal size wheels. Except for myself, but that was down to one shock absorber being set much softer than the rest. A stiffer rear and slightly wider rear wheels might be faster but this setup is really practical. I can wear down a pair of tire to the limit and I have spares if I spin of and the tires get a tonne of small pebles stuck between the tyra and the wheel.



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